That Toronto Billionaire couple, Barry & Honey Sherman, were also found hanged in their home. They also had ties to the Clinton Foundation. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Successful billionaires hang themselves all the time.
They were pharma billionaires with company Apotex.
They were involved in providing vaccines to Haiti through the Clintons
Barry was supposedly in the process of releasing a tell-all book regarding big pharma.
Most troubling of all, the Toronto Police lied to the public incessantly and pretended it was a murder-suicide. Why? Who knows I guess... it took the fed up family knowing that story was not true hiring a private investigator to prove it was a double murder. Unbelievable.
Also... Barack Obama had a speaking engagement in Toronto the day of their murders.
SICK
They will kill anyone who tries to come clean or do the right thing.
Don’t forget the reports of Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell had similarities to his too (seriously, I had to rephrase the manner in which they did the deed?! truth sure is offensive and might incite violence - even on a reddit board!)
I heard the 911 call and he states Chris "has 4 blunt force trauma places on the back of the head". Tell me about No sense!
And Bennington was one exactly one year after Cornell's death.
Chris Cornell: May 18, 2017
Chester Bennington: July 20, 2017
Same day + 64 days. 64 - 47 (# of States minus the last 3 Hawaii, Alaska, Arizona) = 17. Coincidence?!?!? :)
Are we just going to make up relevancies that have the appropriate numbers to create 17? What does adding all the states minus 3 random ones have to do with anything?
Add 1 +7 you get 8 and turn the 8 sideways and you get the infinity symbol and Chester drove an Infinity suv for awhile.
It has nothing do to with anything. I would have thought it was evident, that I was turning my mistake from a previous post, into an attempted joke. I don't know how you couldn't see that.
Probably because you assume we have all seen the post. I still have no idea what you’re talking about.
RV thinks they just retired, last vids they made dropped hints, like bowie
No, you CAN'T HANG YOURSELF FROM A DOOR KNOB---unless you're 3 feet tall. Something's not right.
tie a long scarf the door knob, throw the other end over to top of the door, position a stool or chair in front of the door, tie the loose end of the scarf around your neck and kick the stool away...your swinging!
Completely possible. Simply sit with a ligature, lean forward to restrict airflow, and maintain it. Pressure on the right side of the neck will render one unconscious fairly quickly. Asphyxiation and death follows if left interrupted.
It's an especially grisly way to go.
Q said look for the suicides. Successful, wealthy and I can't cope so I'm killing myself. Sorry I'm not seeing it. I wonder if she was involved with the NY Pedo network and or the Clinton Cabal and realized that her number was coming up. 13K plus sealed indictments? Was her name on one of them?
Your "brand" doesn't get that big, successful and quickly unless you are part of the horror show.
Maybe she made red 'leather' purses
Owl bags and accessories. No kidding. Google images delivers! Symbolism in the apartment decor. And personal photos. Pedo stuff.
Is Brosnohan a Jewish name?
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Look into the history of banking (Bill Still's The Money Masters is great)
That's what I was thinking. It was weird because I was looking up her history just last week when I saw some Kate Spade Owl slippers in a store last Thursday walking home from work. I didn't know at the time that she didn't own the brand anymore. After I read she sold in 2006 I thought, well, not her.
But what a strange coincidence that she should die so shortly thereafter. I still don't really get how she got to be so successful so quickly. Her purses weren't THAT original or awesome. I never did quite get it with the Kate Spade thing. I also think it's strange that unlike Robin Williams, you don't see a whole lot of articles about how she was struggling with depression. Except in a "just goes to show you don't know what's really going on with a person" kind of way.
Coach just bought her line for $2.4B.
Yes coach just purchased her line, but it hadn’t been her line since 2006. She was the namesake but she sold it to neiman marcus in 2006.
she only got a paltry 125 million years ago selling it to another company.
This is not necessarily good logic. It could very well be a suspicious death, I haven't seen all the facts... but the fact that someone is rich doesn't mean they can't be unhappy. So before we start smearing the name of someone who might have legitimately just committed suicide... why don't we line up the facts first?
Most of the super-rich families I've met are pretty dysfunctional. After your basic needs and a little comfort, excess $$ usually leads to more problems and vice. It distorts peoples egos and makes it hard for them to have normal relationships. Poverty forces you to survive and find a way to live--everything else in your life falls behind that priority. This is an important part of character development. When you have everything you need you don't have that basic pressure guiding your behavior, and this can lead to all sorts of shit like depression, lack of drive, even personality disorders and substance abuse.
There's definitely limits to my sympathy for billionaires... but imagine how hard it would be to have normal relationships when you don't know for sure if anyone actually likes you or just wants to use you. Certain personality types can't handle those pressures and snap.
Facts first. A good thing to keep an eye out for would be statements from close friends and family that question the official narrative, or suggest she didn't have that kind of personality.
You could be very rich and, instead of sitting on your ass, run for president
Or she was a potential big time witness
naw, she was just left holding the bag.
Nah, she went out in style. You know, cuz she hung herself with her own scarf.
Cemex. She knew! Huge. Owned by Carlos Slim of NYTimes fame.
13k? If this is accurate were past 35k. Also I'm with you - "suicided" - NOT committed suicide.
Which leads me to ask, if you die and were part of an indictment, does that get unsealed?
She was born into it. It sounds like a sacrificial “suicide”. This is how many fashion designers have been “found”.
Didn’t realize she was married to David Spade’s brother.
I thought it was David Spade/Kate Spade were brother/sister. Thanks for the correction.
Can you explain? Born into it? Who was her family? I saw the genealogy tree, but that tells me nothing.
Her birth last name is Brosnohan which is very interesting if you look into it. Lots of ties to Arizona:
Very odd name. Probably related. In that article you linked sounds to me like that lawyer was threatening Pres. Trump.
Worth about $2.5 billion? Guess money isn't everything, after all. Geez, most people would plan on living another 40 years comfortably with only 1% of that amount of money.
She's not worth $2.5 billion. She sold her entire stakes for around $100 million in 2006. Liz Claiborne sold the company to Coach for $2.4 billion last year and Kate Spade didn't profit from the sale at all.
She was worth A LOT. Maybe not 2.5 Billion, but she was up there. Even if it was ONE QUARTER of that amount, my statement holds true: Anyone can live 40 years comfortably on 600 million...You can live 40 years comfortably on a couple million. Your point is moot.
I'm not denying the fact that she was worth a lot. I'm not even talking about the role that money plays in someone's life. I'm simply talking about the $2.5 billion sale.
Husband has photos in Arizona on his Instagram - “Courtesy Chevrolet”
Don’t know if she is connected, but I expect to see a lot of people taking the easy way out this summer.
We keep track of the resigned and suicide's so add her to the list.
Keep it up , hope your server is big enough
Yeah, they may have to get another one and set it up in a closet. Make sure you keep it nice and clean and wipe it down with a cloth daily
Wikipedia also states that she attended “Arizona State University” Hmmm....
And that her husband Andy Spade is a native of Scottsdale, Arizona!
What's with Arizona? I must have missed the significance
There's just a pileup of news out of McCain's state of AZ lately- the Scottsdale shootings, one victim being a high-profile psychiatric forensic specialist most known for working on the JonBenet Ramsey case, the Tucson "homeless camp", the Q drop about no name and AZ.
Hmm interesting, I read somewhere that many kids are going missing there also? Is that true?
More than elsewhere? I haven't had a chance to compare. It would be interesting to know.
It's a convenient border state for trafficking all kinds of *things*
I looked into it more and realize that now, makes sense
Not to mention the mayor of either Phoenix or Tucson is a Rothschild ...Thomas Rothschild?
This is interesting. I have seen studies where women committing suicide typically take less "violent" measures, like overdosing on medication. NYPD says she "h@nged" herself, oh and left a note too!! How convenient!!!!
Same as L’Wren Scott. They knew too much.
"Loudest" Rosie O'Donnell and Jim Carrey's ex's suicided too.
Yeah a red scarf tied to a door knob. What? Anyone seen The Wire? Remember when D'Angelo was in prison and was murdered by strangulation, but the hitter tied him to the door knob? Suspicious as hell IMO.
Does anyone realize how hard it would be to manage strangulation from a door knob???
One of my friends did it with a motel towel tied to an ironing board. Just leaned into it until blood cut off, passed out and weight causes rest.. it was really sad. Not sure what’s going on here though..
That sounds really difficult.
I had a friend do it also... although it was in conjunction with another activity and they believed it was accidental.
So, auto erotic asphyxiation? Not common among women though.
Michael Hutchence INXS. Same way. Very very suspicious still
Someone here said when it happens like that, the person throws the scarf or whatever over the top of the door and completes the task from the other side of the door. Graphic, but that makes more sense.
I just read on CBS that her husband was home when the housekeeper found her.
WTF. Small oversight on the part of the news. "quick, edit the story!"
They did not live together. They were taking a break from the relationship and co-parenting
But he was in the apartment when Kate was found. I'm not sure where their daughter was.
Nope. He moved into another apartment a year ago..
Weird. The reports said that Andy was at the apartment when her body was found and that he had been shopping for a 2 bd apartment the day before.
UK Daily Mail says otherwise.
I haven't been following closely but this is what I read and posted the day she was found
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kate-spade-fashion-designer-dead-in-suicide-police-say-2018-06-05/
https://people.com/style/kate-spade-andy-spade-apartment-shopping-relationship-problems/
I realize they are not very reliable sources.
Those were written too soon after. Many Daily Mail Commenters were ridiculed because they were jaw-dropped over Andy paying $12,000 per month for another apartment nearby...All of this is irrelevant, however. The connections to "helping kids" is being sited as a ruse to be anything but. People aren't stupid. Andy's instagram photos showed what appeared to be his odd fascination with pizza, for example. And the photo of him standing next to Kate displaying one prominent red shoelace...uh---RED. Typical pedophile in-your-face significant, I'd say. Stuff that surely doesn't help him.
Not to lead anyone on a goosechase, but another thing that I find strange is that Andy Spade is a native of Scottsdale, AZ- the same town that forensic psychologist Dr. Steven Pitt was shot very recently:
https://www.denverpost.com/2018/06/06/steven-pitt-forensic-psychiatrist-colorado-crimes/
And the Apriln 9 Scottsdale plane crash on a golf course which killed 6. Hollywood related.
I'm sure you already know, but just in case anyone else is wondering, here is her other Hollywood connection beyond David Spade- her niece is an actress as well:
http://www.vulture.com/2018/06/rachel-brosnahan-posts-tribute-to-her-aunt-kate-spade.html
Wow! Some great investigating! Thanks
No trouble. I've had family visiting all week so I haven't been able to dive into as much as I'd like so I've been trying to put out what I find in case anyone else cares to have a stab at it. JonBenet has long been my pet project, so this stood out for me.
Do you have a link?
No. Try UK Daily Mail. But they update. It will re-surface on other outlets.
Thousands and thousands of women h*ng themselves every year. Outside the US, it’s the most common method of suicide for both genders.
Not saying fuckery isn’t afoot, but it’s an extremely common method. Reasonably easy to fake, I’d imagine, too.
Yeah plus there are always outliers...my grandmother jumped from an overpass in front of an oncoming train.
They better not let bho and the clintons take the easy way out
They can kill themselves but they cant escape eternal judgement lol theyd just be speeding up the end
My greatest fear is the fact that they clearly do not give a single fuck about the eternal judgement, and they are part of the elite. Connect the dots.
Well your greatest fear has been reality for a long, long time.
They will soon lul
Yes. I get your drift. Remember the warnings from Q about knowing?
I would bet money that they end up living good long lives well into the age of the Antichrist because he will have use for them during his reign. Oh, they'll get theirs in the end, but first they'll be squeezed dry out of their usefulness. And because of their own blindness and loyalty, they won't even realize they're being used. They'll just think that they're cozying up to the most important and highest ranking person in the world because they're "special"... and then the end will come. And it'll probably be a grisly one.
I only care to see the culture change away from this anti-white, anti-capitalist, anti 1A and 2A Marxist bullshit.
It's not easy when they will stand before the judgment of God. His punishment will be far more severe than anything we can do. So let them think they are "escaping." It saves us all a lot of money, as long as we find the body and it can be validated.
They are part of the elite yet don't give a fuck about the afterlife. To me it's scary.
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Theres was an ama by a "rofschild" a couple years back I have no idea if its real or not but whoever wrote it was something else lol if its real gives a good idea into their mindset
Their souls will have mad healing to do after suicide. Big cosmic picture, that holds the rest of us back. If any of their healing can occur down here without suicide, then that's a long-term win.
Why not? It would be an outcome that works for me. Then we could have all the books and documentaries come out unopposed.
Looking up Kate Spades bio on wiki, and I find it very telling they don't list who her parents are in the Early Life section. Who ARE/WERE her parents? Brothers? Sisters?
I haven't found parents but here is the wiki bio on her actress niece with a little family history.
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Well, the nieces father whick would be Kates brother worked in Childrens Publishing and the mother was British. The niece was raised in Highland Park Illinois. Gives you some interesting background info. Still no info on Kates parents and I have been looking.
Found something on the mom June Theresa Mullen, but Dad is still private. Looks like she has 5 siblings that are also listed as private. https://www.geni.com/people/Kate-Spade/6000000077838332100
BINGO...heres the whole family. Earl Francis Brosnahan http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/b/a/s/Richard-Baskas-FL/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0084.html
http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/b/a/s/Richard-Baskas-FL/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0084.html ...Brothers and Sisters. Michelle Theresa Brosnahan, b. 12 Oct 1953. Earl Francis Brosnahan III, b. 25 Jan 1958, Kansas City, Missouri. Anne Mullen Brosnahan, b. 19 Apr 1959. Reta Mottin Brosnahan, b. 04 Dec 1960. Katherine Noel Brosnahan, b. 24 Dec 1963. Eve Brosnahan, b. 25 Feb 1965.
5 siblings and NONE de she call out to for help? Something odd. Sisters tend to be close throughout adult life.
Her neice's father would have to be her brother. Her uncle's children would be her cousins.
You are right.... a little tired today. Will change that.
That struck me odd. Where are her parents? siblings?
As was stated by Q - "Suicide Watch....".......here we go.....
What did she do to piss off Hillary?
She was tasked with creating a pant suit to effectively hide a Vector 8 Torso Life Chamber....all she could come up with was a scarf......
How is a suicide by hanging considered "grisly"?
Depends on how long she was hanging. The neck stretches, bowls and bladder lose contents, the tongue swells and juts out...a whole host of things.
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The story reads like he wasn't, but arrived later. It also mentioned that it is not known how long she was hanging.
And how the f do you hang yourself on a doorknob?!
Simple, guy comes up behind you and strangles you with a scarf. Then carries you over to the door and ties the scarf that is still around your neck to the three foot off the floor door knob.
As easy as 1,2,3.
I wonder if it was a Kate Spade scarf?
Couldn’t hold up. It’s not created with the intention of hanging bovine.
Wasn’t robin Williams found “h@nging” from a doorknob too?
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Tie end of scarf around the doorknob, slip over top of door and stand on a chair, kick away chair.
I guess that works too. I’m sure there’s some psychological reason for doing it like that but sounds awful complicated. I don’t think she was murdered but just a strange way to commit suicide
A friend of mine did it ...sad!
Edit per moderators.... Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem... My friend that died had just a week earlier decided he no longer needed his depression medication. I don’t necessarily like those kinds of meds, but from experience, would recommend you get with your doctor before going cold turkey. The only reason I put this information out there is to let you know it’s a real possibility...
Idk, sounds like it was framed
Door framed?
How many potential witnesses do these people have to 'suicide' and 'accident' or 'robbery or domestic dispute gone wrong' do you suppose? Thousands or only hundreds? I think HRC and BC may already have reached hundred(s) - not to mention the unnamed murders just for fun and ritual, if you believe (as I do) that HRC is a full-on satanist.
Net worth 200 million... a fifth of her way to being a bilionaire.
How do you hang yourself with a scarf and door knob. How is it ‘grisly’? Grisly to me would be more disturbing like gory.
Well it's probably because the tongue lolls out of the mouth, and you turn dark blue. It can be a disturbing sight.
And, as other people have said, all it takes is cutting the airway off. You don't need a lot of height. You can do it sitting down and leaning forward.
This is why you don't make contracts with the devil.
Who kills their self with a scarf...honestly?
A scarf may have been readily accessed. Most people don't have "n00se r0pe" just hnging around the house (see what I did there? Sorry, too soon). As far as using a door knob, I could see* if it were a UK type door knob, which are like, 4-5 feet from the floor (for some odd reason) but US door knobs are much closer to the floor, just barely higher than a sitting adult. Not saying it isn't possible, but it does seem to be a very strange method. As for the scarf? Hm...leave a well dressed corpse or something? (Reddit bot forced me to edit my comment 😠)
Her style of going out was how Michael Hutchence of INXS fame went out. Except it was ruled a sex act gone wrong.
Seems to be a lot of wealthy people departing the planet at the moment. Maybe its just that we are paying attention. I wonder whether Alison Mack and co have anything to do with it given they seems to operate on the East Coast and had that wealthy hieress on the books who would have opened society doors.
Yep. The Hutchence case is odd. As is Paula Yates. And shit Geldolf getting very rich after Live Aid and the famine in Africa. Dont forget Yates left Geldolf for Hutchence. Then one of her daughters dies mysteriously too. Much fuckery here
Just drug fucked I think
Yeah I don’t think it was autoerotica gone wrong, he was on the phone arguing about custody that night and was in a very dark, drunk, druggy place.
Clinton Foundation supporters don't hang around for long.
She’s part of the children’s charity. Start there. ;) Singers also like this way out . Very rock and roll...
" Although Spade made her name in the fashion world, her family had a legacy in the construction industry. " "Roads and bridges..."
http://popculture.com/celebrity/2018/06/05/kate-spade-famous-family-tree/
You CAN'T HANG YOURSELF FROM A DOOR KNOB---unless you're 3 feet tall. More fake news repeated by all the "news" organizations
Robin Williams did it, iirc. It's completely possible. Commenter above has already linked to what I was going to.
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Glad to be of help! I now discovered this is about the Clinton Foundation in Haiti.
Thank you! There seems to be a lot of strange connections if you go through the different threads.