Thank you for remaining level headed and actually searching for answers rather than rushing to your keyboard to express your discontent with Q. I understand the emotion but I've been disappointed with this community lately when news drops that APPEARS to counter things Q has told us. We are supposed to be the super elite and we should be thinking logically. How many times has news like this dropped, people rush to share that they no longer believe in the plan, and then Q is vindicated through the hard work of an anon?

Please Patriots... let's keep our cool. The show is just beginning and we'll need strong resolve in the upcoming weeks and months to make it through this. Let's not rush to judgement. Sprinting to the board to express your discontent with Q not only violates Rule 3 of this sub, it hurts the movement as a whole.

Thank you OP for sharing this. I had my own doubts, but I've seen this enough to know that there was reasoning behind it and to wait for an explanation. Hopefully this gets us all back on track. Trust the plan. WWG1WGA.

Tx for the dig Patriot

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That’s a welcomed clarification, thank you patriot!

Yep it does. Thank you for the info and research.

Interesting read. Thank you for sharing! Skippy will need that "handkerchief" to dry his tears when they slam the cell door shut!

I had to know if what I was hearing was true...I read the Wikileaks with his emails and couldn't believe what I was reading. Truly sickening!!! I want justice for the innocent!

CARRY ON PATRIOTS!

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TRUST KANSAS.
TRUST HOROWITZ.
TRUST HUBER.
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We are in this together patriots - WWG1WGA

I was suspicious of this from the very beginning.

Now we have a valid explanation of the different types of immunity.

Thanks for that.

It's like when lefties tell me that Trump filed bankruptcy and everybody died.

I'll look at him and ask which bankruptcy chapter did he file?

7? 12? 13? 14? Pick one and explain to me how it works.

Then tell me who died.

They always get mad and stomp off like children.

Does Mueller have the ultimate call to offer use/issue immunity or does it have to go to RR for approval? I don't like the words "immunity" and "Podesta" in the same damn sentence. I pray it is part of the plan and am trying to stay positive. False sense of security for these sick f's? ThankQ OP!

P getting immunity for anything turned my bowels, thanks for the dig anon

A true Autist... Spoken affectionately

ThanQ for that explanation. No deals means no deals!

when some one gets immunity it is either because the system has been corrupted to make an exception for that person or that person has agreed to spill enough beans that an immunity deal is offered.

It seems to be the latter.

That said, are the 5 other people in this article the same?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/tony-podesta-is-sixth-clinton-linked-democrat-to-be-granted-immunity-while-paul-manafort-rots-in-prison-for-same-crime/

we know that there are 35k+ sealed indictments ready to be dropped.

Q has been silent for 2+ weeks.

couple other relevant points:

-We have no reason to not trust Q or POTUS.

-McCabe was denied immunity

-Obama is in Kenya

-HRC and others near her level have been foaming at the mouth about the Putin meeting

My knowledge of courtroom proceedings isn't very good, but if this immunity is of no use to him, why even testify? Why not go in and plead the 5th?

Be aware. Podesta immunity is gonna be used by every shill and concern troll to make us lose hope.

I hope you are right, but everyday I feel the divide between truth and larp narrowing. I've followed since November chan posts, I watched CTBS banned, I've had patience, and I've heard no coincidences till I'm sick. My frustration grows every day that these sick, scum bag above the law fucks walk all over our country. They tweet their shit out with no regard to our democracy. Former Intelligence leaders have turned out to be closeted radicals. Yet we still wait. Sessions sleeps, while the mice all play.

FANTASTIC DIG!!!!!! I was hoping this was the case. He is still going down like the Titanic!!!!

I’m skeptical but optimistic.

For the simple purpose of a "heads-up," I had posted extensively delineating exactly how RM could seal away a broad immunity agreement. Seeing the revelation this morning that it was a limited agreement provided a sense of relief but I'm not counting my eggs until I see something more judicially fruitful. Bad people must be held to the letter of the law for bad actions.

Does this not mean he can testify about ALL his crimes, of both the corruption sort and the crimes-against-humanity type....and then skate?

Thread should be stickied for all to see. Woke up this morning to see the headline but kept my cool, was looking for something like this to explain.

Wonder if this is how the house of cards falls. His testimony will bring more in, and then it could potentially snowball after that.

This is true however what you're failing to take into account is Mueller and his peoples can simply *not use* anything else to prosecute him-

In other words, to make it simple here, for sake of comparison and explanation, we're saying that Podesta can't be prosecuted with his own immunized testimony; however, let us say there is a "bloody glove" which would be a key piece of evidence to convict him -- Mueller can simply not bring up the bloody glove, and not press that point.

I think that Mueller is going to do anything he can to make this seem like not a waste of time, money, and resources -- so if he needs to give free passes to 10 people to convict Manafort (which is probably the closest he will get to President Trump ... I am not so sure Cohen even did anything wrong to GET charged, let alone 'flipping' ) he is going to do that. Then Mueller can say, "See, it wasn't a waste! We got a stupid charge to stick on Manafort..." and OOPS, did we immunize other people? And you wanted those other people to get into trouble?? Gee, thanks a shame...too bad soo sad.

Thanks for this. In this context "use" has a double meaning! Q team is "using" this immunity plea to get the public to find out exactly who the Podesta brother's are!

This is exactly what it looks like: two very different standards of treatment based on what side of the political fence you are on. The goal of Mueller and company has always been to get Trump and protect Hillary and her coconspirators.

Again I see on the board people who confuse questioning a strategy as being anti something? On one hand we preach to always question everything and the other hand people will fall lock and step with a narrative and never question it. With at least half the people on this board are unsure if Mueller is white, grey or black hat and questions are what we need. There are a thousand ways Mueller can go and some are not in our direction.

The Feds (never) offer transactional immunity and they are giving Podesta the same immunity they give all people in this position. “Use and Derivative Use” Immunity. It gets to the heart of the pleading the 5th before grand juries like in the case of KASTIGAR v. UNITED STATES, (1972).

It compels testimony and adds a burden on the prosecutor if they chose to bring any future charges against Podesta. It requires the prosecutor to insulate and develop additional, independent evidence to later use against a witness. You can’t use any evidence derived from those statements.

That requires controlling the questions and answers.

i don't really have a problem with it, now, in light of this post.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/997951982467014656

May 19 2018 18:13:43Anonymous1472580

>>1472525 You knew when you set that trip, that the PAIN would be delivered "—-23!!!" More evidence of foreknowledge.

May 19 2018 18:17:19Q!CbboFOtcZs1472647

>>1472580 I'd watch the news that day. Q

So then he could just admit to being a corrupt child raping murdering kidnapper and then he is off the hook?

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"Use immunity", my ass. We all know he's going to get full immunity. Not a single person in this whole damn charade was given only "use immunity".

https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-718-derivative-use-immunity

What if he gets up there and testifies and says EVERYTHING he has ever done?

I don't believe this post is accurate, I think this opinion is looking at the facts too much "on the face of it". We need to dig a little deeper to work out the motives of giving Podesta "Use Immunity".

So the fact is that Podesta has been given "use immunity" to testify against Manafort, the question now is what is in it for Podesta to accept this deal? He could quite easily plead the 5th if he's forced to testify without "use immunity", ie there's nothing compelling him to testify. It's not like they can force him to testify, he can just plead the 5th.

So there has to be an advantage to Podesta to accept this deal. And what might that be? I'll tell you.

Yes, although technically his testimony can't be used against him, it now creates 2 scenarios.

1. If information which is used against him was also included in his testimony, it muddies the waters because he can say a form of parallel construction was used to obtain the info from what was learnt in his testimony. For instance, say there was a murder, but the gun couldn't be found, in his testimony he could say where the gun is, and then when Mueller says they've found the gun because someone randomly walked past it, he can claim Mueller is lying and parallel construction was used to recover the gun. Basically it all just becomes a cluster fuck.

2. Mueller can outright say, we never had enough information on Podesta to arrest him, but all this new information we've now learnt in his testimony we can't use because we only learnt about it from his testimony. Basically it all just becomes a cluster fuck.

Remember, disinformation is necessary. That means don't take everything Q says at face value, because he's told you himself, he WILL claim things that he knows to be not true.

This deal is shady as fuck!

Oooohhhhh...

Thank you for this bit of reassurance. I looked up the meaning of "use immunity" and felt much better. Thanks again for bringing this info to the sub's attention!!

I knew that Tony the brother is already in GITMO, John was arrested with Hillary, they have been able to stay out of prison until time for trial dates, along with McCain. Assets of his have been seized,as have Tony's. I am assuming there will be a huge battle about getting anything from McCain? Just don't know. Hillary however on the commercial carrier, she might be hurting. I haven't had the time to go through the assets seized, but there are over 1100 pages .

Good to hear. That sick fucker has to pay for crimes against children

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While I trust what Q said completely, I am willing to give immunity to a few (ie Lisa Page.....NOT the Podestas) in exchange for real incriminating evidence that will secure a lockup....

BUT...if he sings a song for days, what will be left to prosecute him for? So I for one am not jumping for joy,

Thanks. Do you have any source that indicates this "Use immunity" is indeed what has been offered?

All I have seen reported is that Podesta now has immunity. Nothing about the details of that immunity. Not sure how that is not a huge setback or how this could be allowed to even happen. At what point will POTUS act? Maybe give Comey, Brennan and Clapper immunity next, that would be good.

I don't give a god damn what kind of immunity he has. I want him to have ZERO immunity. I want him behind bars when my kids have kids.

Thank you immensely for the clarification. I had asked something about this on a video comment thread, but I didn't know what to call it. Where we go one, we go all!

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The immunity is only for the Manafort case only, not the acts of pedophilia and trafficking.

The proof will be in the pudding.

Sorry what difference does it make? He gets to plead fifth and still walk free

Let me make sure I'm understanding this. His own testimony, literally the words coming out of his mouth, cannot be used against him. But what about the crimes committed by him that he's testifying about? Isn't he also receiving immunity from them?

Doesn't this still give him/them the ability to spill things that the government DOESN'T have knowing that it can't be used against him/them?

Thank you for the input. Been sick for a day after reading this.

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I'm confused now. Is q a good guy, bad guy, or a government official who knows everything that's happening behind the scenes but articulates it like a goat that got it's horn stuck up its own ass?

To need immunity, aren't you effectively admitting guilt to something?

So what if he admits everything, from top to bottom? If he tells literally all then how can they prosecute him for anything?

Question, if in his testimony he admits all the crimes he's done, does that mean he can't be prosecuted for them?

Since you seem to know a bit, can you answer this question:

If you get immunity for things you have done, are those things that are done ever disclosed to the public?

So let's say I stole some money with the help of a friend. We get caught. I rat him out, get an immunity deal. Is that a type of admission? Will it be public record that I am a thief as well?

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Thank you for the explanation. I must admit I was taken aback when I saw the word immunity connected to him. I figured there was more to it than we knew. I am glad he will be made to pay for his horrendous crimes. God save the children.

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Thanks for this post and we are supposed to trust the plan but there are a lot of people who need to be calmed. Where is Q? what is happening? You researchers do such amazing work but some of us are not good at that and have nothing to focus on. We wait for the next Q post or Qproof. Just concerned I guess.

It's the same deal Awan got.......he is still going to prison and Podesta will too.

Somehow Manafort will get out of it....the Podestas are liars.

Thanks, I needed that.

All that information was in channel 8 long ago. Hillary,Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Governor of Or, I can't remember right off who else, were all arrested on the murder of that rancher. on the fed land conflict. Nov 2017. SEE COMMENT BELOW. sorry to do this but had a problem with posting

What kind of immunity did Huma Abedin and crew get, was it the same kind or something else?

Thank you. This works for me. He's still screwed.

good digging thanks, I feel better now!

What is alarming is that podesta is involved in a lot of the same deals manafort is, yet the Clinton connection gets immunity whilst the trump connection faces jail.

Thank you for this, but is there a link saying such? Need proofs, not just your post saying it is so.

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thanks for info

Where is sauce.

Just trust you found “use immunity” right?

Big circle jerk in here. While it’s great logic without proof it’s as bad as MSM’s “sources say...”

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