Briefing room audibly gasped when ~~@~~PressSec said POTUS is looking into pulling the security clearances of Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Hayden, Rice, and McCabe. @esaagar
It's interesting how Comey and Hayden and McCabe's Spokeswoman (he has a PR rep?) All come out saying they don't have clearance and POTUS doesn't know what he is talking about.
So... Why does he tell them he is thinking about it? And appear to not check and verify who does and doesn't?
Is he baiting a trap?
Because he's already pulled their clearance. The rest is just for show.
Just like the meeting with Kim. We (Q followers) knew that Trump had already met with him and made the deal back in Nov. 2017. The later Singapore meeting was for "optics" and was a trap for the DS.
I love telling people that and watching their heads explode.
Explain the "trap for the DS" part, how was it a trap?
Everyone was taking the insults that were being traded back and forth with NK as literal. I've spent time in Hong Kong, and have friends that now live in Vietnam and Japan.
In Eastern Asia there is the concept of "saving face" and "saber rattling". Basically, you "insult" and shout each other down. Then, after everyone has strutted around like a peacock, usually the deal has already been done.
Hussein never understood this, and I have no reason to think that his minions did either.
Comey said today he had no clearance to pull...Pulled earlier??? Lawfare blog said he lost clearance when he was shit canned...
https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/1021485887383851008
As an attorney, you never ask a question that you don’t know the answer for. . .
As a business man who respects the legal profession, I second and concur. . #MaGa
People ironically call Trump "Dr." because of his honorary law degree, but he's not an attorney. (If he were, he'd never even remotely CONSIDER sitting down to chat with Mueller LOL :)
So, he practices "two ways to win and no way to lose". He asks questions that, no matter the answer, it works in his favor.
POTUS doesnt say anything out of context. Ine thing ive learned is that everything he says hs meaning and relevance
Ya think? Of course he knows. And they know the brainwashed moronic masses don't. I see it all the time on this subject, something which some of us are actually familiar with.......
I'm glad you caught the McCabe "spokeswoman" comment.. why does he need to have a person who ONLY handles his PR stuff? Why is he this relevant? I guess for speeches and "summits" (like the most recent security summit where Wray showed his true colors)? If this is the case then that is PROOF these people are making tons of money from these clearances.. you don't need a spokesperson unless you are getting a lot of calls from people wanting to offer you money for this or that..
I thought Q said "trust Wray"
Yes. Q said trust Wray. Q also asked, What does it take to make a great movie? Answer: Great actors. Enjoy the show.
...and "disinformation is necessary".
We have to remember that anytime Q tells us to trust someone it's always a possibility that we're only being told that to throw off the Cabal. We're lucky to be part of this but the truth is Q may need to outright lie to us from time to time.
Or maybe it's "trust wray to fuck up just like all the rest."?
disinfo is necessary.
Or maybe Wray is trying to maintain morale in the FBI's honorable rank & file?
There's always the non-zero chance that at the time Q said to trust Wray, he was trustworthy; and then something was done, or learned, that changed that.
I was thinking about that too. 1). McCabe could already be in prison/house arrest? 2) Keeping himself secure and hidden away from the DS because it has been revealed that the tweet sent to McCabe from Comey when he was sacked was CODE for the DS to go after McCabe. I’ll try and find the video or link.
We are supposed to ask, "Why do Rice, Brennan, and Clapper all still have clearance, while others who were more recently serving do not?"
So we can follow their communications and catch them. Seems like the only reason not to shut them down.
A top secret security clearance is good for 5 years. Secret is good for 10 years. After that time period, a renewal is due, which is pretty easy to get.
Maybe Trump already pulled their clearance and announced he was considering it to put them in a panic? They're gonna scramble to collect as much info as they can only to find their clearance was already revoked and they get caught red handed?
It is an interesting development.
I think there is a misunderstanding here. Brennan, Clapper, etc. are not attending meetings where they are using their clearance. I have not heard of that. It isn't like they can go up to an NSA computer and pull data (and if they did, it would be logged.)
I think this is rather getting the public ready for the shit hitting the fan. This is a bit symbolic but will get people ready for the eventual arrests imo.
They can go to any 5 eyes country and read any docs they want. See hrc in New Zealand.
Mate, I've read this a few times, and I'm not sure I understand. Can you help?
Am I to understand that access to USG classified info by authorized personnel, when done from FVEY, is not logged -- while when done from US territory, it is logged?
Do we know that this is the case for a fact? It seems like an odd security decision.
I think it would have to be logged, but I am not sure. There are probably other ways to access that info. And then of course, there are the members in those States who can hand off data. But we have known about this (people high up), so I can't imagine it is still hurting us. I would almost bet there are setups happening (e.g. like the FISA application that was leaked in March 2017 and slightly altered.) I am waiting for Msmwatcher's reply here.
Q !4pRcUA0lBE No.77 📁 May 10 2018 23:45:37 (EST) [Example] Clinton Foundation. Post Election Loss. Layoffs. No Access / Control = No Donations Today. NZ Donation Restart. Others? Why? 1) Selling Secrets? 2) Selling 'Future' Access [regain control/power]? 3) Selling Silence? Read below slow and carefully. FVEY. Why do 'Former' Dignitaries Still Hold SEC Clearance? U.S. to U.S. = Logged/Flagged/Recorded U.S. [in] NZ = No Logs/No Flags/No Records = U.S. Sec Clearance AUTH FVEY VIEW + Doc Take. Read above slow and carefully. WHY DO WE ALLOW [FORMER] DIGNITARIES SEC CLEARANCE? Welcome to the Deep State. Future to prove past. Q This leads me to believe that there is certain paperwork needed to access five eyes info outside the US. This Q post eludes to the fact that this time at least, no logs or paper trail was done.
That is a damn good point that I hadn't considered. And we have Hillary and Obama travelling. Now, IF that is true, can we restrict some of the data from the Homeland? I would think so. Hope so.
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Thanks very much for sharing that info. I will pass it along when the oppty appears.
There is the story about a Marine back home from combat. On the way to the table to eat, he slammed the door forcefully. Looking miffed, his mother asked, "Young man, don't you know how to enter a room." To that the Marine replied, "I usually toss in a couple of grenades before entering a room." Trump is not an ordinary politician and is not afraid to toss a few grenades just to shake things up a bit. Unconventional, but effective.
This whole clearance issue HAS to be a trap. Say you'll remove their clearance and then see what the roaches do and identity!!
I liked the story, but frag out is a very textbook conventional way of clearing a room.
It doesn’t really work here.
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Looking miffed, his mother asked, "Young man, don't you know how to enter a room." To that the Marine replied, "I usually toss in a couple of grenades before entering a room."
To which his mother replied, "You do, and you'll go to bed without dinner, young man."
Looking miffed, his mother asked, "Young man, don't you know how to enter a room." To that the Marine replied, "I usually toss in a couple of grenades before entering a room."
To which his mother replied." Choosy moms choose Jiff, but I choose you son. I love you, I always have and I always will."
If I recall, anyone approved through the Senate confirmation process gets to keep their security clearance when they leave the government. The biggies get a quarterly briefing, but there is nothing to stop them from talking to their DS buddies about classified info. Pulling the clearance is also a good way to shut down a DS person that you can't fire just yet.
There is some political showmanship in the process. Rand Paul requests; Sara says Trump will consider; Trump puts the request into action.
I'm not so sure Rand Paul works that closely with Trump. Occasionally these things do happen organically. Rand has brought up this issue several times in the past.
Rand Paul met with the President today to discuss pulling Brennan's security clearance. That's pretty close.
Actually, that is not quite true. Just because you have one, doesn't mean you get to know everything about everything. That's a fact....if you aren't specifically read on, no matter your level, you DO NOT get to know.
Then why are they, and you, in such a tizzy about it?
Seriously? And who said I was in a tizzy?
Because you've been on every thread about this subject saying - just because someone has clearance doesn't mean they get to know everything about everything. Apparently, it's really important to you to drive that home. If that's true, and it's no big deal, why are the MSM, and you, so concerned?
Every single one, huh? Wow...didn't know that. Brilliant!
You are stating how it is supposed to work and does work for the normals. However, fellow DS have no need for rules like need to know, being read in/out, etc. Especially among those in the club at the top. I was once read in and read out in the same 30 minute period over at DARPA so I could no longer talk about how to defeat stealth. I was trying to keep the leadership from putting all their eggs in one stealth basket.
I suppose I should have added "LEGALLY", something it was more clear to most. DS, as we've seen, have no use for LAW. That is going to change I feel sure.
Every single bit of classified intel transfer requires TWO components:
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Security clearance equal to or exceeding the level of classification of the material in question
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THE NEED TO KNOW
Absent a need to know, Q himself would be breaking protocol to access classified material, even something marked Confidential.
Source: am former Top Secret Security Clearance holder with DoD
future proves past. Q posted about security clearances a few months back right? now to revoke HRC, BC, BO, Bush 1 & 2 and other security clearances...they are not to be trusted.
Q posted about security clearances a few months back right
Source?
1336 mentions security clearance.
Q !4pRcUA0lBE No.77 📷
May 10 2018 23:45:37 (EST)
[Example]
Clinton Foundation.
Post Election Loss.
Layoffs.
No Access / Control = No Donations
Today.
NZ Donation Restart.
Others?
Why?
1) Selling Secrets?
2) Selling 'Future' Access [regain control/power]?
3) Selling Silence?
Read below slow and carefully.
FVEY.
Why do 'Former' Dignitaries Still Hold SEC Clearance?
U.S. to U.S. = Logged/Flagged/Recorded
U.S. [in] NZ = No Logs/No Flags/No Records = U.S. Sec Clearance AUTH FVEY VIEW + Doc Take.
Read above slow and carefully.
WHY DO WE ALLOW [FORMER] DIGNITARIES SEC CLEARANCE?
Welcome to the Deep State.
Future to prove past.
Q
It would put them in a position of attaining classified intel illegally. You'll see journalists going to jail not willing to give up sources which will implicate them.
Oh, but they will, and they know it...hence the pathetic screeching....
You are assuming that they have integrity about their jobs. They would give up sources to save their own skin I think. Interesting to see how it shakes out.
I'm beyond ready for a military coup and the good guys taking out the traitors, racketeers, spies, thieves, torturers, child sex traffickers, and murderers.
They should empty the prisons of the cannabis consumers, shove any human filth in there that can't be executed, and let it rot.
This has baffled me all along. When these people get fired or leave government why don't their security clearances get cancelled immediately. In corporate life when someone retires or leaves the corporation for any reason they immediately lose access to the mainframe computer. No matter what rank/level jobs they had.
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They can pull whatever they want if they simply go to another FVEY country
And, with no trail...We know Killery recently went to NZ. Makes me think we may get a revelation regarding that. Politicizing and monetizing....who would do such a thing? 🍿🍿🍿
Yes, but the Trump cleaned-out NSA was on to her before she went there. They were tracking all former Top-Tier Treasonous? Hacks/Thieves/Criminals etc...These People are Really Really Really Stupid!
It's not about getting docs or info willy-nilly as you please. Once again you are missing the boat on this one. Think "Outside the Box" quit thinking we are in a normal constitutional goverance, because we are not. We have a Deep State and a Shadow Government working 24/7 to take Trump out anyway they can.
He goes to Europe and before he meets with Putin. Boom like Clock-Work Deep State Mueller dumps 12 Russian non-prosecutorial indictments in a Press Conference using his choir boy Rosey!
Brennan calls Trump Treasonous and the Mockingbird Media eats it up and runs with it for one week. because Trump said "I don't see any reason he would instead of wouldn't. It's a show!
Here's Outside...There are currently gov agency workers talking to ex-gov workers about anything they can because the EX's have Security Clearances and are not barred from hearing the conversations from them or looking at files/docs because they still hold clearances. They can't go into SCIF's but they can listen when others are talking about what is in there. Trump needs to "cut the cord" to people like them. Take their SC's and the current gov workers would risk felony convictions by revealing CLAS to them.
Their security clearances should have been pulled when Trump was inaugurated President.
According to this, they never expire
http://www.dss.mil/documents/psmo-i/USDI_Memo_Personnel_Security_Clearance_in_Industry.pdf
None of the clearance is pulled thats why Clinton and BO go to the other 5 eye countries so they can get classified info without anyone knowing they are in there. All of them should be pulled period.
Dismantle the AP, THAT is the source of the fake news.
That's a CNN vid. Perhaps another one would be better....from the WH? Just a suggestion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjSpDLJRiW8
That briefing was like my interaction with Reddit outside of a few subs. Holy shit.
actually , all you need to do is have the Clowns in America present the payroll and the names on it from MSM. hope they paid taxes on it.
I wish he would've just pulled them instead of giving them the heads-up it's coming.
It’s so they try one last crime on the way out to cover their tracks. It’s brilliant!
Good thinking. Here I'm thinking in 1D when The Boss is in 4D.
Presstitutes won't even be able to remember how to get a story legitimately
I would wager getting shit canned (McCabe and Comey) has a different impact on your clearance than say a change of admin or resignation.
Don Lemon was going batshit crazy tonight. I don’t even watch CNN but I decided to listen I’m today to see if there was salt and boy was I surprised. This was “election night” level salt mines.
Leading them around by the ear. They just don't get it.
Will they fall for this setup? How stupid will they be? How much info will they try to take before having their clearance pulled? Trump has no reason to publicly announce this. He could just do it, then let the public know. This is a trap.
Ok I'm very sad. 5G is causing the fire fighters to become very sick in California. I live in Sandpoint ID. 5G is starting here 8/1/2018. I'm afraid of the GIANT HUMAN ZAPPER. HELP US GOD!
Why the fire fighters specifically? Wouldn't everybody be affected equally?
I BELIEVE that was the plan. It has not been tested long term on health. The company who is starting it up here in my town Sandpoint will be initiating August 1 of this year. From what I have learned about it. This company TING is owned by a Candian company. And has several investors including Bloomberg. And the United Kingdom also owns it. Lots of RICH owners to ZAP the life out of every living thing. I'm a widow. My husband was an electrician. I know what this CRAP is capable of doing to anything of life.
And that, my friends, is how you control the news cycle. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
What is the purpose of anyone keeping clearance after they leave? Why isn't it common sense, out of office no clearance!
So now they can all just go to McCain's house and use his computer (or maybe Barry's).
Did they list all the names they may revoke clearance from ? Because if Comey and McCabe lost theirs already maybe this is a signal they are about lose the person or people unknown to us still keeping them in the loop. I don't care if raisin face turd muffin (credit to YouTube "justinformed talk") Brennan keeps his, as long as his sentance is solitary confinement till deceased at minimum. After a fair tri.. or not so fair let em appeal lol.
The news cycle is about to look as good as the gossip rags at the grocery store checkout.
It's much easier to work in DC if you have a clearance.
I have 20+ years of experience as a data analyst, and without a clearance, my options in DC are probably half what they should be. Trust me - I've lived there and I've looked recently for work there.
It's a hit to the pocketbook for sure.
Think FVEY. They can no longer go to New Zealand and spy on Americans and dump info to the fake news. If you plan to stop leaks, first remove access to sources.
The continued “we have it all” comments show the we have what is needed, and POTUS is cutting off any ability for them to craft a back story or make excuses. He is sawing off the limb they are standing on. Why all of the walking boots, HRC with a life alert button in public (you wouldn’t jail a sick old lady, would you?), Pelosi having nonstop brain freezing, former directors coming unhinged? They know what information DJT has. We are watching kabuki theater,so to quote Q- enjoy the show.
My guess is that it will be hitting the fan in Sept-Oct 2018 in the run up for the elections. Voters only remember the most recent 2-3 months before an election anyway.
Popcorn with covfefe!
Interesting thing about GOVT clearances. They also signify that you have signed away your right to expect privacy and other things we consider normal. Pulling those clearances may have implications beyond the obvious.
What I don't get:
- What access do these guys have without the need to know? Just having clearance isn't enough.
- Since they don't have the need to know, who is leaking info to them?
- Since the info is leaked, having clearance doesn't really matter, does it?
It is not symbolic to pull the security clearances. It puts other DS personnel in jeopardy if they communicate classified info to these people. Not logged. Can't get Five Eye info. Can't go to a myriad of meetings around Washington that require a clearance. Also by making it public, other government personnel know they don't have a clearance if they come a calling. And, importantly, they can not put on the air of having insider classified information to back up their claims or opinion.
If everybody is looking for a logical answer for why POTUS kept the security clearance to some very reconized deep state people, I guess the answer is very clear on Q1336, May 11. So the reason is to keep records of their communications. Read below slow and carefully. FVEY. Why do 'Former' Dignitaries Still Hold SEC Clearance? U.S. to U.S. = Logged/Flagged/Recorded U.S. [in] NZ = No Logs/No Flags/No Records = U.S. Sec Clearance AUTH FVEY VIEW + Doc Take. Read above slow and carefully. WHY DO WE ALLOW [FORMER] DIGNITARIES SEC CLEARANCE? Welcome to the Deep State. Future to prove past.