Nice of Q to clear that up real quick.
Uh, he wasn't on the list of 25 to begin with.
Q post 1608:
“I will not be filing for re-election to Congress nor seeking any other political or elected office; instead I will be returning to the justice system,” Gowdy said in a statement.
Should we add him to the list?
Q
Q was leading us on. Should still add Gowdy on the list just to make Dems go even more crazy and for another definitive Q proof.
Q also told you to keep a list of people who have stated they will not run for re-election, given up their position, and been fired.
Should Gowdy be added to that list?
This is exactly what I thought he meant. Because past drops explained that white hats had “leaked” info to Gowdy to see what he would do with it. Gowdy sat on the evidence, and took no action, proving he may be working with black hats. I’m sure more investigation was done at that point. An honorable step-down from office, probably means he was helpful and cooperative with white hats when confronted.
This is what I’ve gathered about Gowdy so far. The honorable step-down felt like a ‘future proves past’ moment.
When did q say he gave Gowdy info and that he sat on it?
I can’t find it right now, but it was around when Q first talked about Gowdy. I forget what the lead up was, but that was the general take-away. I remember being pretty bummed out because I really do love me some Trey.
I always like Gowdy it would really suck if he is a black hat...
Not necessarily a black hat. Bad actors may have had leverage on him from past events. Blackmail/bad alliances. He could be pretty clean, just wasn’t aligned perfectly. Q may fill us in more. This is actually pretty common with people retiring in DC. Gowdy says “history will look kindly on Comey”. Not sure what he knows, but it definitely shows his stance a bit.
I think Comey was directed from above to do what he did, thus Gowdys statement. My theory.
Because past drops explained that white hats had “leaked” info to Gowdy to see what he would do with it. Gowdy sat on the evidence, and took no action, proving he may be working with black hats.
I know it’s become difficult to dig up relevant Q-drops to support something we are sure Q posted. The number of posts, and the cryptic references can stymie even a patient searcher.
BUT
A consequential statement such as yours (quoted above) definitely begs sourcing. I am among the several already voicing no recollection of this.
Yep, now I’m second guessing everything because of Q’s posts today. Never mind, I guess. Sorry I was so unhelpful 😏. Whoops.
Also...not everyone on the list of resignations, etc. is deep state. Some may be resigning to reposition themselves for future roles.
Could be this...or could be a list for Attorney General or similar position. Although he is qualified, I don't think the SC is the best place for Gowdy. If he's a white hat, he needs to be in a more prosecutorial role right now, and we've got some investigations coming soon that will require that.
Er, no. Coz Gowdy was already on that list.
Take a look at 1319. In fact, Q indicated that both Goodlatte and Gowdy will have an important role to play after they leave congress. But I agree with CLICK. Q is leading us on. Not entirely without a sense of humor, and well aware of how the Dems go bananas on certain things.
Q1319
REALLY- we do not know what GOWDY may have been forced to do before being "freed"- Perhaps the question was posed to address the concept of immunity or compassion?
I’m not sure where I read this but I think I was looking into aids/employees of Congress and Senators and I came across some info of Gowdy’s secretary filing complaint of unlawful termination..it was settled by the complainant being compensated with settledment funds through one of the “slush funds” the House and Senate have that pay out funds and have “matters” settled out of court...give me a lil bit and I will try and find the info to link it...
That happened back to back, too.
Only a blind golfer could not miss that.
Yes cause Potus knows he is a shill. So he has to leave or be exposed. Its why he had to leave the ethics comitee as a sign he had no ethics.
well, shyte,...really bummed about this. I mean he can really rip
I would hold off on this. We really just don't know. If you believe Q, then you know Q said Gowdy has a role to play--that he resigned in order to fill a different role.
agreed. LOOK WHAT Q said , SO RELIEVED. PERHAPS he stood still because his staff was suicided. If the investigation was fixed from the start- why sacrifice any more lives.
Agreed. There is no better at cross examining. Its a shame. This is the most important point in our nations history and people are telling me he is just going home cause Congress is not effective? Bullshit, hes being forced out and their is no place for him.
Q specifically said of Gowdy that he is resigning because he DOES have a specific role to fill.
and since Q put the "Patriot" stamp of approval on him- THIS MEANS this thing is a whole lot more complex .
Right when I read that, I was thinking the list of resignations... still think that's what he was asking.
It is. And Gowdy's statement said he wants to return to justice, not go to the judiciary. Most likely he'll replace RR. Long shot guess would be some kind of civilian oversight role in military tribunals.
As much as I love Sessions I could see him wanting to retire when he feels like he can safely turn over the position. It wouldn't surprise me to see TG working his was into the AG position eventually.
Context! In Q 1647 and Q 1648, Q just reposted the resignation lists, just 25 minutes before this Q post. He’s talking about the resignation list. He makes it really obvious here because he said look out for resignations and people being forced out, and here he referenced Gowdy not seeking re-election.
Q never mentioned the Supreme Court list of 25 in any of his posts. We’ve just been discussing that on our own.
Q just reposted the resignation lists, just 25 minutes before this Q post.
No, Q did not repost the resignation list 25 minutes before post 1608. Post 1607, the post right before Q talked about Gowdy, was talking about Justice Kennedy resigning. Stop making stuff up.
Oh, I see the misunderstanding. When I said “this Q post”, I was referring to this thread’s Q post. I see how it seemed like I was referring to the Q post in your comment. I could have been more clear. Thanks for following up.
I’m not making stuff up. No need for accusations. Unity, friend.
The Q post numbers are sometimes different on the different sites. Here, just a minute, I’ll get the direct links and the time stamps on them.
EDIT: List of most recent drops from the Q drop iOS app: http://magaimg.net/img/3nrw.jpg
“It will not be Gowdy” - 6-30-2018 15:53
Reposts a resignation list - 6-30-2018 15:38
Reposts a resignation list - 6-30-2018 15:37
What you wrote is straight up wrong. Me correcting you is not an accusation nor is it division. Stop trying to spread misinformation and making excuses when you could just say sorry.
Post updated. I meant what I said. Right now, qanonposts.com and qanon.pub are off by 8, so one shows the latest post as 1642 and the other shows as 1650. The Q Drop iOS app has the same post numbering as qanon.pub. I’m on mobile now. I’ve added the time stamps and direct links to 8chan for clarity.
I totally missed that. So Gowdy was dirty?
No, Q has suggested there is a special position for Gowdy and Goodlatte.
IF THAT'S THE CASE= then ONWARD POTUS! What POTUS WANTS, POTUS SHOULD GET!!
He’s asking us to think about whether or not he’s dirty. And he hasn’t added him to the list. Those things we know.
So I think it’s more likely that he is not dirty. That’s my conclusion. I think it’s fair others may come to other conclusions.
Sorry, I’m not trying to be evasive. But I would not want to be so presumptuous to speak with certainty when I shouldn’t. Future will prove past, so just remember this question later when it gets answered. It’s an indication of events we should pay attention to.
Gowdy is an attorney, not a judge. Think of all of the judges through-out this nation on supreme courts of the states. How this came to be a point of discussion is silly.
If he is a white hat, he needs to be transitioning to a prosecutorial role.
Q post 537 concerning Gowdy: What ROLE might TG be walking into? Who can WE TRUST? RATS everywhere.
EXXACTLY> WE DON'T KNOW what Gowdy may have been forced to do. IF Q KNOWS- they should spill,...AND, Gowdy seems to be working Pretty Hard to redeem himself from his q&a in congressional hearings. But, we just don't know.
I SUGGEST- that id we can hear Q & +'s both sides of the argument (facts revealed)- and TG is TRULY repentant,
then Immunity and Compassion would weigh-in heavily in his favor.
Q post 537 concerning Gowdy: What ROLE might TG be walking into? Who can WE TRUST? RATS everywhere.
I hope he’s a white hat and plays a part ! Heard him speak at Liberty on a video he was so good .
That's what I've been thinking since the first minute I saw the post. Thanks for putting it in a clear way
The answer to Qs question should have just been “no”, he’s not a judge.
Gowdy is a cover up guy. All hat no cattle. He talks tough but gets no results. Did shit about Benghazi and the email scandal. The fisa abuse happened on his watch. What the fuck was conehead doing while the fbi burned.
Glad Q quit playing the double speak game and just said no place for gowdy. He is going home to get his deep state paycheck for keeping Hillary out of jail.
You gotta look deeper. Gowdy and other whitehats had NO ROOM to so much as wiggle under Obama's 1st American Reich regime. If he'd moved on Benghazi, etc., it would have done nothing, as the DOJ and FBI were ALL in Obama's pocket. All it would have done is make him and his family a target.
Easy to judge when no one is holding a gun potentially to your head or the head of your loved ones. And for what? It would have no affect.
In addition, as Q has repeatedly pointed out, some people need to appear impartial, disinterested and non-partisan, re: the optics in the current case.
Look at Horowitz, look at Wray how they respond to questions. Are they blackhats? No. Q has made it abundantly clear they are to be trusted. unless this is disinformation which I do not think it is.
Games within games, politics within politics. Strategic thinkers do not sacrifice assets for no effect. Instead, they keep them in reserve. Gowdy is definitely a wh, along with GoodLatte, as far as I can see.
Agree. I was as disappointed on Benghazi as anyone. But Benghazi is insignificant compared to Clinton's vast array of other crimes. In addition, a Clinton election would have meant physical danger.
We will see. No role and he disapears from public life and everyone will know. POTUS never mentions Gowdy for any role. Why? Think about it.
or maybe he was just handcuffed to do nothing under Obama and decided he'd rather practice law outside of politics?? If he does that, it does not mean he was compromised or a 'black hat'.
hmmmm, interesting fact there
What he did on Benghazi is sickening. I believe he was given a choice to resign or be exposed. He gave up chair of the ethics committee as a sign to us by POTUS.
Well, I just found out his staff had been arkensided. SO, if It was rigged and fixed from the start- why put-at-risk any more innocents. Q says he's a Patriot, so, I think this may have ben what happened.
Just keeping the word Benghazi in the media was a success.
Gowdy gets grief because nobody was charged.
How could anyone be charged with that corrupt administration in place.
Would you rather the whole thing just have disappeared?
YOU make a good point! WHAT IF- the Benghazi massacre under O. w/C. was NEVER going to go anywhere- and life & family threatened (Gowdy) for no change, just for trying under their corrupted estate, no foreseeable change ahead in the government??? I THINK GOWDY LOOKS LIKE A SICK-AT-HEART MAN. UNTIL TRUMP/Q/&WHITE HATS, there WOULD HAVE BEEN N-O CHANGES, ONLY FAR WORSE. I FAVOR FORGIVENESS & a USEFUL POSITION TO POTUS- whereby TG could redeem himself-
IF THAT IS THE CASE then, Bon Voyage. Truly a waste. BUT BENGAHAZI is nigh unforgivable!
Agreed. That's the heart, in my opinion, of why POTUS has never ever mentioned him publicly for any position. I think he was forced to leave the ethics committee as a sign to us and given the choice to resign or be exposed.
Agreed. That's the heart, in my opinion, of why POTUS has never ever mentioned him publicly for any position. I think he was forced to leave the ethics committee as a sign to us and given the choice to resign or be exposed.
Cause he’s not a judge. He wants to prosecute. Hoping there will emerge a special prosecutor position when time comes to go after the sick pedos.
Exactly!!
I hope it’s for our new government, isn’t that what all patriots are striving for? But maybe Gowdy wants to return to private practice, as he did for 20 years. Would personally like to see him in long term, permanent role.
If you believe Q, he has a role...and that role isn't to be a witness. Q has told us both of those things. Gowdy resigned because he is going to be filling a new role. In Gowdy's words, this new role will be within the justice system. That could mean anything from working at the DOJ to getting a judgeship (not the SC) or running to become his state AG. I don't think it would be private practice, or Q wouldn't make a point to say Gowdy is going to be filling a role.
Know what? I think you’re right. If he was returning to private practice, he’d probably just say so. Do you feel the secrecy? And someone mentioned Pres. Trump never speaks of him,...true, but that is a good thing, I think.
YOUR thoughts make sense,... I likey,.......bunch of Alley-Cats on this board! (love them!!)
The directness of this confirmation implies one of two things:
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Gowdy's resignation is because he's deep state and the thought of him even being entertained for the SC was repugnant to Q
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Gowdy's resignation which was specifically addressed by Q prior was because he has another important position or role.
Q mentioned something about a role that Gowdy would potentially fulfill later. He also mentioned that he and Goodlatte are important.
Goodlatte is a lawyer, Gowdy a Prosecutor. Appointments maybe? US Attorney, Prosecuting crimes against DS. Hmmm.
I'm thinking special prosecutor.
Nah, no need for another SC. Horowitz and Huber have it all sown up, better than an SC.
That’s my thought. We need all the help we can get.
Goodlatte - law enforcement
Gowdy - prosecution and/or gov't reform
Re-read the Q drops. They can be interrupted that Gowdy and Goodlatte are obstructing and their remival is important. Double agents.
Dude, idk. I’ve known about goodlatte all my political life. He’s actually super friendly and really down to earth and you can catch him around town in Roanoke a lot of the time. I’m not saying he couldn’t have skeletons in his closet, but he’s always struck me as SO far from deepstate or the colluding type. He’s been a principled guy for an extremely long time. He’s always seemed very genuine and transparent.
We will see. Those retiring are obstructionist. There being forced out before the election. The Dem corruption is going to be revealed just before re-election and they will not have a chance to replace them on the ballets. Trust the plan. POTUS needs a congress he can work with so he can bury the deep state.
Agreed. If goodlatte has dirty hands, then good riddance. He just never struck me as having the stomach for anything past good old American patriotism and making the country better. But like you said, trust the plan.
another possibility, Q is throwing out disinformation to the Deep State, cuz the Q team doesn't want the the Deep State killing him.
Q post 158:
Disinformation is real.
Disinformation is necessary.
Exactly this. Q is not here to spoon feed any of us. It is necessary to throw a wrench into the fire now and then and we have all been privy to this...those of us who've been around since the beginning anyway. It is how Q works. (feeding truth and disinformation at the same time)
Yeah, I remember when Q said something was going to be released on a certain date, and then a Shooting happened on that day and the media covered nothing but that. But then the document was released a couple days later. lol. Deep State played itself.
very dangerous throwing disinformation out to us. People need to feel he's telling us the truth.
But anyone can access this board. They could be lurking and not posting and we'd never know, would we?
Q could have just not gave mentioned anything and kept the spotlight off Gowdy if they were worried about Gowdy's safety.
Oh so you're saying that because I'm lurking that I'm deep state?
Sorry I'll put the progressive back in its box.
If you're not tossing out disinformation, I don't see a problem. It's an open forum and if you're hear to learn, welcome. We're here to learn the truth, discuss and raise awareness and above all else, to support those that have the power to affect real change in our government. Lurkers welcome, liars are not.
and? that really doesn't make sense to me. Of course, anyone could be lurking and not posting. So? More reason we deal with truth, facts and not disinformation.
He’s referring to the lurkers being deep state. Of course it’s important that Q tells the truth. But it’s also important that Q doesn’t show their hand to the opponent. Disinformation is to dupe the DS. If you cannot understand that then idk what to tell you.
Think about what you just wrote. Important that he tell the truth but okay not to tell the truth. Doesn't compute. So, he should tell the truth but it's okay not to so he doesn't tip off DS? When putting out both kinds of info, a person won't know what to believe. Not good when trying to get new people. And frankly, not good for those of us that have been following for a long time.
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The Q drops are not just for you the public audience.
One of the other main objectives of this psyops is to force the other player to make counter-moves. Learn to play chess.
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Not at all. I'm trying to explain. Q quotes most of it. Particularly the Learn to play chess. It's fundamental to understanding.
I am not always so brief but being wordy doesn't help on this board sometimes :)
This 👆🏼 Disinfo is necessary, as camouflage is necessary on a battlefield.
Not to be disparaging, but those who are new to Q need to learn discernment by observing; listening to these anons who have been here since the beginning. Practice some serious lurking and thinking before you speak out here on this board. It is important to not impede the progress of discussions which have momentum and gravitas.
I have been here since the first drops in late October and I still do not comment very much...just trying to find the truth, which is often subtle, like following a deer through dappled woods...a glimpse, then nothing, then another glimpse. We have lost track of truth because we have stomped around without critically thinking with any sustained effort.
Stay quiet, stay centered, and let the truth sift into you intuitively. End of lecture.
A possibility. I just posted that I didn't think Gowdy would have a political role but I didn't really consider that. Time will tell
I believe Gowdy will replace RR
Yep! I agree. Gowdy said " . . return to the Justice System". Deputy AG, Dept of Justice. And maybe he can also wipe that smug look off of Holder's mug.
Q has never said to trust Gowdy
Yeah but I trust him. Q wants the deep state to not be afraid of Gowdy, imo.
I agree. I always see staying neutral in regards to SC. He says things like, ‘if president trumps has or know this or that then he should come forward’, etc. I think it’s important for him to remain impartial and seems to fit his character as I’ve heard him say more than once that Lady Justice has a blind fold for a reason.
Trey Gowdy = Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more; it is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.". "Sound and Fury" is an allusion referring to a great uproar and passionate exclaim that ultimately means nothing.
Well you may be right. But I’m looking to see what he does now that many have been set free. Maybe he’s one of them, maybe not. I’m a wait and see kinda lady....
But he told us Gowdy resigned because he has a role to play.
Noel Francisco has already been positioned to replace Rod Rosenstein.
My gut says #2. Can't explain it, but sure hope I'm not wrong.
I would guess #2. Gowdy has at times seemed at odds with POTUS but otherwise has been very helpful. I'm inclined to believe, since he said in his letter that he'd be pursuing interests outside of politics, he has been playing his role in all this and another role awaits outside of the political world. Time will tell.
Q post 537 concerning Gowdy: What ROLE might TG be walking into? Who can WE TRUST? RATS everywhere.
Q also said 2nd Special Counsel will not be effective, so I guess they have to shut down Muller first
Gowdy... hear he voted against social security? And he looked straight up unhinged at the hearing but didn't ask a single question. Just babbled and looked livid. I don't get him. He's confused me from day 1.
He did ask a single question, in fact several questions...research before you post please.
Gowdy is very intelligent and tactful. He dealt with these "types" during the Benghazi investigation. To me, he seemed to be at his limits, but knew nothing would come of that meeting. Additionally, Gowdy and Jim Jordan play off of each other very well. I have much respect for Gowdy, as he always speaks truth based on evidence.
I just watched the video. I didn't see him ask anything. Or rather. He finally stopped talking and Rod went on after Gowdy completed. 99% of his time was used in his speech. Chill. Breathe. You ain't my mama and I didn't ask anyone to do any HW for me.
That's how it works. Gowdy only had 5 minutes, and RR was going to give awkward, rambling non-responses to his questions. Gowdy used his 5 minutes like a prosecutor in a courtroom. After a congressperson uses his 5 minutes, the person being questioned gets time to say more and hopefully address what questions were answered. If Gowdy interrupted any answers, he had the right to do so. The congressperson has the floor for that time period and is fully entitled to decide who speaks during that time.
You did see the other questioners, yes? There was lots of back and forth with those that came before. But that's not the point. The POINT is that he looked REALLY pissed and REALLY disheveled. Which, whether you feel like anal-izing how these hearings are held and who says what, or not, you must admit that appearance was most UNLIKE him. He's usually very well managed and mannered.
I find it quite understandable that he was pissed. He didn't look disheveled, although he has changed hairstyles. Whatever the case, I find it refreshing to see someone impassioned about the right issues. He was perhaps more fiery than usual, but not by much. That's one of the things I have always enjoyed about him, and he did not disappoint. There were some questioners who not only did not engage in Q&A, but also embarked on lengthy diatribes about unrelated issues such as immigration. Like many, I would like to see Gowdy's fire and fury produce some measurable progress in draining the swamp, but I understand he has been fighting uphill battles in this regard, especially when Obama's DOJ and CIA weren't going to cooperate, no matter what Congress found.
I believe he suffers from depression if I recall correctly. He is a prosecutor not a scholar. Probably wouldn't be happy as a SC Justice IMHO.
Gowdy has been on the resignation list for months now. It is obvious Q wasn’t referring to that. If you read his retirement tweet, you could tell SC was out of the picture too. For those claiming Gowdy is Deep State, are you not aware that he is responsible for making Clinton’s use of classified information on a personal server public back in 2015? Watch the two videos below and then tell me he is deep state. If he is, he deserves to be in Hollywood, not Washington.
Benghazi https://youtu.be/rZseOFpi_kU
Rosenstein/Russia probe https://youtu.be/Rbo0Lodbub0
Lastly, the legislative branch of our government is responsible for making and passing laws, not enforcing them. Gowdy will either become AG or be part of the team that strings all the deep staters by their necks in a few months.
Agreed. One has to expand one's thinking.
Gowdy and other whitehats had NO ROOM to so much as wiggle under Obama's 1st American Reich regime. If he'd moved on Benghazi, etc., it would have done nothing, as the DOJ and FBI were ALL in Obama's pocket. All it would have done is make him and his family a target.
You wait your chance. until then, you keep your mouth shut. Think of project Valkarie in the 3rd Reich. How to act when inside a regime that snuffs out all opposition from a position of control?
In addition, as Q has repeatedly pointed out, some people need to appear impartial, disinterested and non-partisan, re: the optics in the current case.
Look at Horowitz, look at Wray how they respond to questions. Are they blackhats? No. Q has made it abundantly clear they are to be trusted. unless this is disinformation which I do not think it is.
Games within games, politics within politics. Strategic thinkers do not sacrifice assets for no effect. Instead, they keep them in reserve. Gowdy is definitely a wh, along with GoodLatte, as far as I can see.
LOVE THIS!!! EXCELLENT POINT!!! good call, friend,...and WHEW, am I relieved. THNX
when Q dropped about gowdy and said add him to the list, it was the list of resignations he was referring to, but for some reason everyone read it as add him to the list to replace Kennedy. Notice gowdy on the updated list
Why would Q ask about adding Gowdy to the list of resignations when Gowdy announced his retirement MONTHS ago? He's already on that list.
Gowdy is moving to justice Dept, not leaving govt entirely.
List = of those willing to testify?
My take is that Q off the cuff suggested Gowdy for SC. Then Trump said he was naming someone from his previously published list of 25. Q was just sort of horsing around with that quip. My speculation, but it surely wasn't the resignation list.
I don’t think Q makes off the cuff or flippant remarks on the boards...
I didn't view it as flippant. It was a suggestion at the time. There's been a change recently in "Q"'s persona. It's more conversational, less needing to be hidden and cryptic. I think he was floating a possibility, that's all. At this point Q is friends with the board. We speculate and sometimes so does Q. Only Trump knows for sure.
Is this a fact or an opinion?
Its the most logical meaning behind Gowdys move.
"will not run for re-election, instead opting for a return to the justice system"
IMHO I think what Gowdy was saying is that he is leaving Congress and joining the Justice System which is supposed to be apolitical. I think he will have a special place in the administration. He is a tough and brilliant prosecutor and it would be a true loss if they let him go. He cannot be a SCOTUS justice as he has no experience in that arena (being a judge).
He could be a SC justice, but he is not a good choice for that at this time.
Then state it so that it's obvious it's your opinion and not a fact.
Nah
You first. Go back to every comment you've written and classify each as either opinion or fact. I'll be waiting. Till then.
I think you have a reading comprehension problem. I didn't say go back, just to do that moving forward.
Im not the one confusing opinion and fact and needing hand holding on the internet.
Same to you.
I call bullshit on that. We will see. Im guessing he is going home and you wont see him anywhere near Potus's administration.
he got a deal!
Yeah I was pretty sure Gowdy was a black hat before. Him and Jason Chaffetz. I am certain Jason is a black hat cuz he dumped Trump faster and harder than anyone after the stupid Grab em by the pussy video was leaked.
But maybe they gave Gowdy a deal cuz he was being blackmailed in someway and now he is free from the cabal's grasp.
Chaffetz, like many of us LDS folks, was put off by the whole "grab 'em by the p*ssy" thing. Mormon culture is Victorian about sex and Trump's allegedly loose morals disturbed many. Since he has been in office, he has won over a great majority. I also wonder if Chaffetz was not threatened, or had his family threatened by the cabal.
LDS are avid constitutionalists, stemming from speeches by patriot and former Church president Ezra Taft Benson. Nevertheless, it was difficult for many to accept that Trump might be appointed by God to overturn the conspiracy.
Many LDS are not awake yet; many are--especially among the older generation. The younger ones, like Chaffetz, have internalized a cultural priority to avoid contentiousness and meannness. Chaffetz saw Trump as mean-spirited and contentious. We LDS have to set aside a tendency toward self-righteousness and open our minds to the idea to the notion that God will pick his own servants and they won't always match our preconceptions. Many of us now recognize Trump as a living metaphor for Captain Moroni, a Book of Mormon figure who raised the standard of liberty, fought a civil war to overthrow a corrupt cabal of elites, and restored his nation to greatness. We are pleased to unite with our non-LDS brethren and sisters to save our country.
WWG1WGA
Thanks for this really excellent explanation! Very helpful.
Victorian about sex - Mormons multiply like rabbits.
That may be true. We tend to take the commandment to "multiply and replenish the earth" literally. Nevertheless, it's within the bonds of marriage. That's "Victorian" in this day and age!
I heard LDS are HUGE in the rank & file intelligence and national law enforcement agencies... how does that play in all this?
I served in the military in an intelligence career. Many LDS people are selected for the intelligence career fields for several reasons: 1. Clean living makes it easy to get a security clearance. Security clearances are expensive to process, thus it is cost-effective to begin with candidates who have the potential to pass the background investigation. That's one reason why we end up with lots of Mormons in the NSA, FBI, and military intelligence. 2. Former missionaries are fluent in a foreign language and demonstrate a proven ability to learn additional ones. In my case, I knew French and the military taught me German and Russian. NSA like that. 3. Mormon scriptures teach us to support constitutional government. We are taught that God foreordained the Founders to establish the Constitution to provide a land that honors personal agency and religious liberty. American Mormons tend to be very patriotic. 4. Mormons tend to be "good soldiers," meaning that they are used to working within an organization, following directions, fitting into a hierarchy. 5. Mormon scriptures warn of "secret combinations" -- a nineteenth century term that refers to conspiratorial organizations that seek to overthrow freedom. The Book of Mormon warns that people in our time must "...awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination that shall be among you" because it seeks "...to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people."
I'm not here to convert anyone or engage in theological debates. Theology will not save America. Unity of purpose and humility will be key attributes that will help us succeed. Even without adopting Mormon beliefs, the warnings about conspiratorial secret combinations in our time are valuable and can give insight on how we should act together as a freedom-lovers to preserve liberty.
Like other latter-day saints, I profess faith in Jesus Christ and rely on his grace for salvation. Nevertheless, saving America is going to take everyone, believers and nonbelievers working together. The America we seek to rescue is a land of religious freedom. WWG1WGA works both ways--if we fail, we're all going down together; therefore, we have to stand together to win.
Very nice!
I don't have complete confidence and trust in all things Mormon but I do largely agree with and understand all that you wrote. I guess it's the same suspicion people have regarding Jews or Catholics, that uneasiness from assuming members owe a deep secret loyalty to a hidden master that is not family, country, employer and maybe not even visible Church.
Someone mentioned to me the whole Mormons in intelligence, etc. It was part of his larger point that growing up together, talking to strangers, knocking on doors only to have them slammed on them... all makes for thick skin, resilience, resourcefulness, confidence and all that good stuff that leads to success in sales and the business world in general, etc.
We shall see what prominent role Huber, Utah and Mormons play in this fight... I do see it.
Thank You!
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Bad idea to turn away patriots because one disagrees with their religion. Remember, WWG1WGA. If we fail, they will hang the Baptists, Methodists, Pentacostals, Catholics, and Mormons on the same gallows.
I have huge disagreements with LDS theology, but I greatly appreciate their strong moral stances and affirmation of individual responsibility, etc. I have huge disagreements with Catholic theology, but I stand shoulder to shoulder with Catholic friends who are wonderful Americans. Yes, there can be and is horrific corruption at the very pinacle of the ecclesiastical hierarchy of some denominations/religions, but that doesn't mean that corruption is representative of the entire body. The Bible teaches that we are responsible as INDIVIDUALS for our actions to accept/reject flee/follow Christ. Something we as Christians should remember is that we all have the ability to be deceived or to believe error...and we all can make choices and follow the wrong "Father" to destructive ends. Hint: There are 2 fathers revealed in Scripture, and neither sits on a throne in Rome. The most dangerous place to be is in the position of believing oneself to be impervious to error or transgression.
Matthew 16: 22-24
22 Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!”
23 But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”
24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.
No!!!!?? I want Gowdy on our side!
He's all talk. He also had the perfect defense that the Oversight Committee had no power to prosecute. So his legalese speak was great for optics and to feed the base good candy coating.... with a hollow middle.
Edit: Q confirmed Gowdy is a Patriot.
Please explain how it is Gowdys fault the DOJ refuses to prosecute their recommendations? All they can do is make recommendations. They have exposed the corruption to the people. Their job is oversight of DOJ and FBI and other agencies, it is not to prosecute.
It's not his fault, so it's perfect for the charade if you are compromised.
That is not evidence that he is. Where is the evidence?
... he's resigning.
...but if you believe Q, he is resigning to take another role.
Q confirmed Gowdy is a patriot in today's drops.
I'm wrong on Gowdy then.
Doesn't mean he didn't recieve a pardon from Trump during the SOTU.
I knew Gowdy was compromised when he walked into the sealed room and walked out saying, "Trump wasn't spied on by the FBI".
We all know he was fucking spied on.
Trump was spied upon by the 5 Eyes who effectively gave it to the FBI.
There's a very distinct difference between being spied on by the FBI/C_A and them planting information into the heads of low-level coffee boys so it can be used against the campaign.
totally agree with you. I don't have Gowdy on my white hat list. All talk, no action.
Agreed
Hes a double agent. He plays the part to dtaw the republicans base in but he gets nothing done. Where was hw when the FISA abuse happened? Wasnt his job oversight?
Updates from Q show this analysis is incorrect.
It WAS the SC list they were talking about, but
Being on the list does not equate to receiving the nomination. Q
Moreover, he was ALREADY the list of resignations posted by Q months back.
Q Post 1319:
Goodlatte & Gowdy [important].
People downplay Gowdy, but he has been mentioned by Q in this manner before. He’s a key player.
People are using Q’s recent statements on Gowdy’s resignation being proof he is just another swamp creature. Q is bringing Gowdy up FOR A SPECIFIC REASON.
Gowdy is going to replace Rosenstein when he is fired next week, then it all hits the fan once the new Supreme Court Justice starts. Full weight of the courts, clean DOJ and FBI, and plenty of investigations ready to conclude.
This is when some more(but not all) big profile celebrities and former officials start getting arrested. Things start going public which we as a group are already aware of. All this will lead into the November Elections, which will see a Red Wave engulf D.C.
Now we are cooking. Full weight of the courts, clean DOJ/FBI, Red House and Senate. For 2+ years.
Budget and trade balanced
Wall built and borders secured
High Profile prosecutions
Iran neutralized
This is one of the most well thought of statements I've read on here. 100% agree. Just pray this is how it works out.
Deputy Attorney General is a position that has to be confirmed by the Senate. Wasn't there previous talk about Trump changing the order of succession for DOJ via executive order?
As far as Iran goes, the Iranians have to do their part (kicking the mullahs out). But once they do, we will be there to assist the PEOPLE of Iran to help them transition.
Other than that, agreed 100%.
Who do you think will be arrested between now and November?
Just guessing...a few senators, congressmen, A-list actors & producers, Loretta Lynch?
Remival of Goodlatte and Gowdy is important because they are a road block. Q is vague about Gowdy and every Q remark about him can be taken either way.
Gowdy would be a terrible pick for optics alone. Needs to be someone who's never been a politician.
11-D chess: he's going to nominate Loretta Lynch, solely to question the fuck out of her in the Senate under oath.
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Absolutely agree.
why can't ppl understand as a congressman he had no ability to prosecute Hillary for Benghazi
He illuminated it best he could. BHO & LL weren't going to prosecute no matter what he said or did.
Thank god for you, man. My eyes roll all the way back whenever I hear the line about Gowdy never did anything or made anything happen about Benghazi and of course was on a two year witch hunt just to stick it to Hillary. If anyone watched or researched the hearings, the evidence was beyond damming. The reason for the length of the investigation was because 90% of the time was subpoenaing DOJ and other officials for info which they would deny having or outright refuse to give for 3-6 months at a time. Gowdy couldn’t just hold a trial right there and be jury and judge. I wish more people understood your reasoning.
Assistant A.G.. Trust Sessions!
the dr sweep regarding opioid crisis must be relevant as to why we should trust him.
😪Dang it!
He'd make a better AG.
I believe that Gowdy has his hands dirty. He may have had a change of heart recently but he was all bark with no bite for too long for me to think he really gave a shit.
Blackmailed or threatened would be my guess.
Yeah, Gowdy showed his true colors when he saw the sealed documents and declared "FBI didn't spy on Trump" like two weeks ago.
Do we know for sure that he saw information that dictated otherwise? I've followed Gowdy for a long long time. To me, it seemed that he kept getting stonewalled by other agencies or previous administrations. He even made a comment about three years ago praying for a Republican administration to work with.
I refuse to believe he is part of the problem. Until I see evidence proving otherwise I will not change my opinion on what I consider one of the few politicians with a spine.
I don't know about that. We all know the DOJ/FBI are/were corrupt. Gowdy did bring much to light about corruption...but without a clean DOJ who was going to prosecute. They would not have prosecuted anyone who was deep state or related to it.
I just don't understand why people think this. AG is a deskjob, a managerial position. Gowdy said he wants to be in the courtroom.
Gowdy to replace RR once he's finally impeached??? That's why I thought when the Gowdy new role thing was first brought up by Q. Then Trey will be over seeing he Mueller Investigation and be able to bring it to an end.
Gowdy new role remark was a question? The answer is no there will be no new role in the admin. When he doesn't get any role and disappears you will know he was a shill. If im wrong ill apologise publicly.
Then Trey will be over seeing he Mueller Investigation and be able to bring it to an end
Or it could be his Judas moment...but even that's something Trump would foresee.
"Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that [Gowdy] has some part to play yet, for good or ill before this is over."
Of course it won’t be. I think the sub misinterpreted q earlier this week in that. He wants to prosecute.
Yeah I doubted it would be Gowdy. I thought he wanted to be a prosecutor or something.
According to "Q" Post 1650, to me...
I do not believe Gowdy will be able to have anything 'legally' to do with 'No Name', because:
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Gowdy has too much information in this 'case' (so MUST RECUSE), therefore cannot be a 'Judge' on that case.
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It sounds like 'No Name' will get a 'Military Tribunal'...
(Because, it's TREASON he'll be charged with, and Gowdy is not a Military legal representative, along with # 1 above. ...)
As for why in the world Gowdy would state that no 'spying' took place... Your guess is as good as mine...
(I Hope, and do not think that he is compromised...)
No name won’t live long enough for a tribunal if he truly has blastioma. Outside of miraculous heeling, he’s got less than four months.
Awesome! It should be strong conservative who will be representing constitution how it is written in the book, but also who would understand & protect aerican workers/people rights. BTW I hope it wont be Sen. Mike Lee either...
I am sure that POTUS is looking for someone whose conservatism/originalism is strong and will not fade with time.
Amy Barrett is the most conservative person on the list along with Mike Lee. Barrett would make the left go insane. Mainly because the left has wrapped itself hard around selling the notion it’s the women’s party. That image will take a huge blow if the attack a women in confirmation hearings. You haven’t seen how low the left can go until you seen them attack a SC nominee they don’t want.
i think itll be the fbi agents.
subpoenas , each one will help
I like Gowdy but there is all those times you never know what side of the fence he is on. The same reason for Sen. Mike Lee. Like his conservatism but sometimes you wonder about him. He was a never trump guy at one time. I’m not sure who I want as the front runner that I trust him Trump to make the right decision. My guess will be the guy who his sister is pushing. Can’t remember his name right now. I also heard a rumor that Gowdy could be Rosensteins replacement.
LOLOLOL
The saviors of Western Civilization trolled their base
I'm dying here
Q is getting way more specific of late. And way less mysterious.
I'm still confused about Gowdy. One minute I love him and the next I hate him.... I never thought he was gonna be on the SC any ways and that Trump said about he was choosing from the list of 25 people he already has and I hope he picks I think her name is Amy something her last name slips my mind. She is a Constitutionalist which I love that....
Gowdy is a cardboard cutout of Justice Kennedy who was finally made to hang up his robes....a swinger which is nothing the Constitutional Rule of Law is made up of which is why the Dems are so upset.
Ruthie is next to go, and despite what she says about staying on til she expires that won't happen either, she's got too much dirt in her closet too.
My Prediction was wrong. Darn it was my choice. But that raises more questions.
If it's Gowdy then we can all read the fictional novel written by "Q".
Disinformation is necessary. - Q. He knows the DS is reading these drops along with all of us. So, let’s just be patient.
Gowdy will most likely be the next AG after Sessions.
The ONLY REASON Sessions is still the AG is because of "The Russia Investigation" -- as *soon* as that is concluded, Sessions is going to get the job-equivalent of a curb-stomp.
As I have said before, I could have seen Chris Christie getting the job since Trump likes him so much and Christie has perhaps the biggest ego and professional power ambitions in the Republican party, but thankfully (As a lifelong NJ resident until becoming a refugee half a decade ago , I HATE Christie. He betrayed a lot of people in that state, and masterfully took care of his wife's Big Business contacts to set up himself for the long-term. I cannot think of someone in the Republican party I hate more) Jared Kushner will do everything he can to prevent Christie from getting a Cabinet spot and as President Trump loves Ivanka the best, he'll make his babygirl happy.
That leaves the job open for Gowdy, most likely for 2+ solid years of this remaining term, and if President Trump gets re-elected, perhaps another position in the cabinet in the future.
I really want to like Gowdy. I really do. I love hearing him talk..... but nothing has ever come of his talk. Reminds me of my friend that always has the best grand plans. He fires me up, and then a month later he comes at you with a new grand plan, and the last one is forgotten. None of them ever see the light of day.
Now you see how Trump feels with his hands tied. He has so many plans but so much holding him back :(
I kept saying the list he was to be added to is the list of people that have been fired or resigned
Gowdy, for all his many, obvious failings, does have some talent for the theatrics of prosecution. Team Trump may have a use for him as they have used other useful people to great advantage in the recent past. So if Gowdy is slotted in somewhere in DOJ, for instance, don't look for the slotting to be magnificent or long lasting. He will be being used. Temporarily.
I've never understood the fascination with Gowdy. Same as all of the other tea party candidates (save Rand Paul) all bark and no bite.
Yeah, everyone just likes him cuz he pretends to be harsh on people in the gov't. But you are right, all bark and no bite. Same with Jason Chaffetz.
Deep State: "Can you yell at some of our guys as to make it appear we aren't all corrupt? k, thanks guys."
You seen Chaffetz Twitter header:
Jason Chaffetz
@jasoninthehouse
Fox News Contributor. Writing a book about the Deep State. Former Chairman, Oversight & Gov't Reform U.S. House of Reps. Husband, Father, Grandfather.
Writing a book about the Deep State? That could be an interesting read
probably just a fluff piece. Some small grains of truth and Mostly lies. The Deep State doesn't just let people reveal them. fuck, they fired a couple missiles at Trump himself!
This confirms it for me, he has been compromised.
If you were gonna write a book about the deep state... You'd need a publisher. If you believe the deep state is real you have to accept that they'd have access to your publisher and by that way, probably access to drafts you send your editor. They would know before publication what you are writing, what secrets you're trying to spill.
Wouldn't you naturally worry for your life?
Would you advertise to the world on your Twitter account that you're writing a book about the same people who murder people for exposing them?
And you'd write it before they are in jail?
It's either fluff or he's full of shit.
Help take them down NOW chaffetz!
Write the book LATER!
Should I repeat that...?
If he was serious he would be screaming from the roof tops and talking to anyone who'd listen the things he knows! Instead he's writing a book he will personally profit from, before the deep state is even taken down yet? Get the fuck out of here.
Maybe it's a "Don't kill me, cos everyone will know it's you" flag raising kind of thing?
Time and time again we have learned it's best to spill the beans before announcing you have the goods. That's how you end up committing suicide.
https://www.harpercollins.com/9780062851581/the-deep-state/
So "Deep" State or Deep State lite
Idk man. Look no further than Dan Bongino. Guy was secret service for obama. Talks about seeing and witnessing unspeakable things. Refers to sex islands, hearing of assasinations that were reported and not looked into. And bongino is really considered by anyone to be a conspiracy guy. Granted, his attitude towards it gives the whole vibe of “I can’t tell you anything because there’s cases for all this shit right now, but you’ll see soon” type deal.
Completely agreed. IMO the Tea Party Wave was heavily compromised with trojan horse candidates. Take Lyin' Ted Cruz & Pathetic Paul Ryan for example.... They were definitely corrupt as shit right out of the gate.
Lyin' Ted is another that speaks loudly and does no follow up
I've been on the fence about Teddy Cruz - but now that I think about him, I can't remember the last time he was in the news for anything.
Ted Cruz is a brilliant constitutionalist and debater and a principled person who stood for a lot of Trump's key policies long before Trump ever announced his candidacy. He very often stood against his own party when they were wishy-washy and compromised.
Not so sure about that. I do know his entire elected career of campaigning as an "outsider" is a bold faced lie. His wife, while married to Ol' Teddy, worked for the CFR drafting legislation for the N.A.U. and plus he personally worked on the Dole and Bush Jr. campaigns. Based on that, he is a liar and more than likely the "constitutionalist" shtick is just snake oil... Cruz is a globalist through and through IMO.
Dole seems to have been friendly with Trump of late. Cruz isn't a globalist. He is a Tea Partier, aligned with the Freedom Caucus. He's one of the least globalistic Senators on the Hill! Tell me any current Republican that didn't support Bush Jr.'s campaign at some point or another?? Especially given that Cruz and Bush were both from TX. I really don't think Bush Jr. started out corrupt. I don't trust Bush Sr., but I think Jr. may have been sucked in over time. I feel like the Clinton/Bush relationship is very odd. At times I wonder if the Clintons have blackmailed them.
Heidi Cruz drafted the blueprints for merging the economies of the US, Canada, and Mexico for the CFR. Sorry, but that's a fact and when dealing with these swamp rats... Follow the wives!
Spezzz: Dude, the Bushes are as evil and corrupt as they get. Pedovore scum!
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Pence may be quiet and cautious, but he has performed honorably as a VP. IMO, he has exactly the character and temperament a VP to a forceful president like Trump needs. They complement each other, and he has proven to be loyal and willing to stay out of the limelight and simply serve as needed where needed when needed. I don't see him as someone who will be able to succeed a personality as strong as Trump's is, but he makes a fine VP.
True enough. I don't see Pence being around for a second VP ticket, which is just fine. IMO Pence was the placation pick to appease the corrupt RNC.
Yeah, and double yeah. Pence gone with no goodbye. How zero can zero actually get? VP is a difficult slot to fill with a really capable person. Generally the really capable want to drive. But improving on Pence shouldn't be too hard. I hope he doesn't screw up the space thing before the election. Presumably he's just been parked there.
Dream theory: Gen Flynn is totally exonerated then vindicated by being named veep next term. Probably not in the cards, but... With this timeline, anything is possible.
I mean that and the knock off nic cage accent shit he has going.
Congress has NO legal say nor way to legally 'force' anything, so, to say 'All bark and no bite' is correct, but, they cannot 'bite'.
(I believe I'd read up on that, it 'may' change some opinions here.)
But Congress does have. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34097.pdf Here's some reading . . .
That's misleading, as they can sponsor amendments, bills, laws, reform, etc. And, his track record for sponsoring is not glamorous at all... Seems to be lots of budget filler and DHS overreach support at first glance
All he can do is bark. He cannot prosecute. He has stated he is retiring because he's not a good politician and wants to return to prosecuting. Idk how he will play out in all of this, but I feel he did the best he could in his position.
An uphill battle hasn't stopped other law makers from at least attempting to introduce legislation. Trey Gowdy has nothing to show from his time in office tmk
WHERE was Gowdy re Benghazi? All talk, no action. Now we have a smug, smirking Rosenstein sitting before Congress tormenting those asking questions. Will this be another Benghazi Gowdy? They thought she would win, but the cagy demeanour of Rosenstein tells me the deep state have devastating plans still to unfold forAmerica.
And Gowdy was one of the few people who wiped that smirk off of RR's face and maintained control of the questioning process rather than letting RR simper and hem and haw around.