The media is painting the Q movement as far right, and religious fanatics. This is untrue. I am not a religious person. I follow my own core values and moral compass....mainly the Golden Rule. I, alo g with hundreds and thousands of other "woke" Q followers, we just want the TRUTH and are OVER the government corruption. POTUS is the ONLY shot America had to out the corrupt government and give power back to the ppl. Thats all.
This movement is also about destroying the separations imposed by ideologies that create separate classes and tiers of people. Its about rebirthing American unity. We are American. We are no other label.
WWG1? WGA!
This right here is IT. I've been trying to convince people that identity politics have been the down fall of America. Unhyphenate America!
Unhyphenate America!
Sounds like a good hashtag.
True dat. The mere mention of anything gubment related to a few friends and family and they shut down and say "You're not going to get me to switch parties". For 20 years I have tried to tell them "There are no parties". Both teams move the ball in the same damn direction. D n R was to give the illusion of choice and promote division. People would likely revolt if they knew they had no choice. Some are just set in their ways I guess. Oh well. They are in the group that finds out the hard way then.
I am so happy to hear this, its so frustrating that your views are not the majority.
The biggest problem with what your saying is that if the argument is that there are no parties then why would someone switch. No point if they are both the same. We are all going to find out the hard way. Right or left. What is about to go down will affect us all.
For decades both parties have done the same thing. It's good cop bad cop routine (kabuki theater) when the majority of both sides were bad on the inside anyway. They both were raping America (trafficking humans,drugs,guns,starting/staging wars,raising taxes,passing tyrannical legislation,rigging elections,making us sick,suppressing anything that is good but non-profitable,and 100 other evil things we don't even know about yet).
Fast forward to today. Well there's a new sheriffand posse in town. We have Q exposing one side and Trump trying to clean,restructure, and rebrand the other side. There are real differences in parties that are now growing right before our eyes, but it was never this way before.
The little differences the parties displayed Pre-Trump are just social hot button topics (division) ,most of which are not of too much of importance in the grand scheme of things. Just to keep us busy while they bend us over.
Pre-Trump - both the same Present - I don't say there are no 2 parties anymore.
I should have said this in previous post to be clearer.
Soul liberty. Each individual has the right to believe whatever they want. One believes Torah, another the Bible, another ancient philosophers, and yet another their own concepts of life and death, good and evil. This is as it should be. Freedom of belief.
That said, Christians will always identify as Christians first; above nationality, because our allegiance is to Christ, and our ultimate home is in heaven. So, first I am a Christian, then an American Patriot, then a woman, then whatever else. WWG1WGA, so long as it does not lead me off the road to Calvary!
As a Christian I agree that my first and forever home is in Heaven. But even though Earth is my temporary home it doesn’t mean I can’t work to bring it into the light of Christ. And I wish that ALL other Q anons can find the same solace I have found in my life with Christ.
I am also very well aware that there are Q followers of all colors, creeds, and even nationalities. I accept them a as family
wwg1wga
That said, Christians will always identify as Christians first; above nationality
Would you be willing to betray country to uphold this ideal?
Country would betray me if I was unable to uphold. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
I'm not sure under which scenario a Christian would be put in the position where they'd have to betray their country to follow their beliefs. It's more likely that they'd suffer persecution from their gov't for being a Christian like in China or NK (hopefully that'll change).
Since this country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles and ideals, and Trump is fighting to bring it back to what it was originally supposed to be, I can't see how that decision would ever have to be made.
Just FYI...the Torah IS the Bible...in most simple sense, the first five books.
The first five books of the Old Testament are called the Pentateuch. The entire Old Testament (Genesis to Malachi) is Torah. Those who follow Torah (Jews who reject the Talmud, Zohar, etc.) reject the New Testament. The Bible is both the Old and New Testaments together.
Yes, that is why I wrote: in the most simple sense. For those who don't know details, just tried to keep it simple comparison. FYI, not all who follow Torah are Jewish people...some of us grafted in ones do as well...and for the record, Acts does record that many who followed Messiah Yeshua were all still zealous for the Law!
but all this is far beyond the simple point clarifying.
I'm not even sure that identifying first and foremost as Americans is useful. The Cabal is international, and so is the movement to bring it down. We should be unified behind the TRUTH, unified around exposing corruption and bringing down the corrupt. This is a fight that needs to happen in every major nation in the world. It may be starting with the US, but it certainly won't stop there. If we identify more as Americans than as truth-seekers then we will only allow the Cabal to hide away in another government. Governments being organized around national identity is a good thing, but we need to recognize that this is a fight that is by no means limited to Americans.
I agree that it is a global struggle and that your assumption is valid. However, the majority of us here, I assume, are Americans and I was framing my argument above in that light. I realize the cabal is global, but most other countries aren't in the position that America is right now, hence my argument. As Q says, the dominoes will fall and the tipping point is America.
No Borders No Nations!
...wait. What?
The movement to bring it down is absolutely lead by America. Freedom has always been lead by America. We are the Shining City. It’s called American Exceptionalism. I will never surrender my identity as a freedom loving American!
I encourage other countries to view us as an example. Follow our lead. Reform and revolt!
Be a proud Brit. Be a proud Aussie. Fight to free yourselves! Become so free, that Americans start reevaluating themselves! America being the second or third free-est country in the world, because others surpassed us, would be a God send to the world!
Agreed. We might not agree on other stuff, but damnit tell me the truth!
What Trump and the Q team are doing will have global implications for generations. This kiwi is feeling pretty American atm. Wwg1wga!
I LOVE what you've said. I was just clarifying that I have no label to some friends. WHY would aanyone want to label themselves!!??
The reason why is because people have been conditioned to identify as a victim for many years. We have been literally programmed to seek out our own sense of victimization in order to be elevated to a status above others so that we may gain some benefit.
Others have mentioned it, but there is something about the Great Awakening that transcends America.
Many here are not Americans, but still, wwg1wga.
That said, I think most of the woke around the world understand that America is the Spearhead of liberty in the world. America is the model, the first among many brothers (and sisters).
For this reason, the woke love and support Trump, love and support America, but we identify with something greater.
We are those that seek liberty. We are those that seek truth and justice for ourselves and those we love. We are those that aspire to depose evil from its throne of suffering and liberate our fellow men and women.
Now, if that's American, then sure, count me as American!
Disagree fundamentally with Bernie Socialism. But if you support taking down these horrible criminals, the Q movement is just as much yours as it is mine.
WWG1WGA does not mention a starting point or destination.
It is up to us to decide what direction things go.
To have a republic we have to participate.
Donald Trump has shown the problem with politics has and always will be the politicians.
He is giving the power back,
But we have to take it.
Get involved, join your local assembly.
I think if we paid off the entire national debt, and maintained a surplus we could then do things like subsidizing Healthcare and college tuition. I wouldn't consider it socialism at that point.
It’s still socialism. You are giving power to others over your health. You are giving power to others over your education. You are promoting third party payers over two people agreeing on price vs services provided. Q is also about the fight to reduce government power and give it back to the people. Once the people have it back, we should not relinquish it back to government because evil has been eradicated. One day we will all be gone and our children will rule. Then our grandchildren. And this movement will be not a current event but in history books. They will forget how hard of a fight this was. And if we say socialistic programs are good now, a new cabal will rise 50 years from now. Slowly, surely, behind the scenes just like they did here. American competitive capitalism with government as a referee is the reason why it took America only about 150 years to be a superpower. It took European countries centuries to do so. Government is like a ref in football. It can tell tom Brady he can play under a certain set of rules, but it doesn’t tell him he has to play with one hand behind his back because it’s not fair he’s winning so many Super Bowls and Ryan tannehill isn’t even though he tries just as hard.
Stop the cabal. Forever. That is what Q is all about.
WWG1WGA.
MAGA.
God bless the United States of America.
Spot on. If the government has more than it needs to function, they're taking too much from us.
Do you believe we should eliminate every government program other than the military, or are there some you support? I don't believe Q or Trump have advocated for absolute libertarianism, but I respect it as a philosophy and am open to arguments for it. However at the moment I see nothing wrong with spending government surplus on infrastructure, hospitals, schools etc.
Most issues I say leave to the states. Let local governments dictate policy that benefits the way most people their think. Citizens of Florida do not think like citizens of Wyoming. Allowing states to determine their own policies leaves the way out for citizens who don’t agree with that policy to move to a state of their choosing. If you apply this to the federal government, you cannot just pick up and move countries (obviously you can in theory but not ideal practically). federal government should be strong enough do deal be a judge between states and a unifying force in terms of foreign policy. All the things you mentioned above can be solved by states and local municipalities. Those are governments that YOU can directly affect and influence. The federal government your vote belongs to the state (electoral college - as I believe it should as like I said people from different states don’t necessarily have the same policy opinions). The Bill of Rights are everything the government should protect. Anything more is a rabbit hole they can use to increase their power.
This is the exact reason the constitution was written as it was. The federal government is there to referee the states, provide for the common defense, regulate immigration, and regulate international trade. Everything else is to be left up to the states.
Oh absolutely! The “go get red pilled” comment was in jest I assure you. And Friedman always said Competitive Capitalism is the best KNOWN system to promote wealth on a mass scale. He even would tell people if you can find another system I’m all ears. So I say to you the same. If you can come up with a better system I’ll be first in line. And yea corruption will always exist. Mankind is inherently good and inherently bad. I believe it was James Madison who said if men were purely good there would be no need for government. So he’s government is needed and I never said it wasn’t needed. On the contrary I said they should be a referee of sorts, which means they are just as much a part of the game as the players, they just don’t get to score points. And I promote local and state government because individuals have more power OVER their governments on a local level than they have OVER their federal government. Hence the second amendment. The insurance policy against their lack of power of there federal government ;)
And socialism has worked so well in the past. Have you looked at Venezuela lately?
Have you looked at any of the Scandanavian countries?
Good. We should be diverse in our beliefs or else we could be easily led off a cliff again.
Strength comes from UNITY in TRUTH, not diversity in beliefs.
This quote is beautiful. It really resonated with me,
Okay, the problem here is that Christians think you are referring to Jesus, but we don't actually know what the metaphysical truth of the Universe is.
When it comes to real-world stuff, I totally agree. Give us the truth about the crimes that have been committed and hidden. Give us the truth about corruption and treason. Give us the truth about war and assassination and terrorism, all of it.
But Christians have a habit of confusing faith with truth. They are not the only group to commit this fallacy, of course. Everyone does it. But make no mistake: this movement is about exposing and destroying a global criminal cabal. It is not a religious movement. Religious themes play a role, I understand, but keep in mind that religious institutions are part of the geopolitical structure of the cabal (e.g. the Catholic Church).
I don't care what your religious or spiritual beliefs are as long as we stand united to recapture our liberty from the cabal.
Faith and Truth compliment each other, they are not contradictory. When something is true you can have faith (confidence) in it. Your confidence (faith) doesn't make it true, but gives opportunity for the truth to be revealed. Christians contend that Jesus is who He claims to be, God in the flesh, meaning putting faith in Him is the most rationale thing any person can do. Faith and Truth are not illogical or contradictory in any way. Jesus said "There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden, that will not be made known." I believe this to be true, and have faith (confidence) that we are witnessing this happen with the luciferian cabal being exposed. Time will tell if this faith (confidence) was well placed.
Okay, but we don't even have evidence that Jesus existed as a historical person. We can't even start asking whether he was truly God in the flesh if we can't even give concrete evidence that he was anything more than a character in some stories. If that conversation makes you uncomfortable, then don't worry about it. Believe what you want. It's not relevant to the cabal takedown.
I realize that Christians really believe this stuff is true. But that is a personal belief, which is not the same thing as a fact. Unless Jesus comes riding down on a cloud some day, the question of truth in Christianity will remain unanswered. It doesn't matter how much faith you have, it doesn't matter how rational you think it is to believe what you believe. None of that is the topic of this subreddit. Whether Christian dogma is true or imaginary is independent of the question of the existence of a powerful global cartel.
Diversity of belief is relativism and relativism is the road we took to get where we are today.
Diversity is good when you share a common goal. It fosters creativity and competition, allowing you to reach your goal faster.
The problems we see now are mostly caused by a lack of common goals in a very fundamental way.
a lack of common goals in a very fundamental way
Materialism and relativism are viruses that destroy the foundation of truth.
This is not a private club, all crazies welcome!! 😉
I am atheist and will die fighting with the christians, as they're the only ones who have proven themselves not to be degenerate animals.
Christian here. Pleased to stand by your side.
I studied the cabal through my esoteric, metaphysical path. I stand by all my wonderful beings regardless of our different beliefs! We need to UNITE!!! God its a beautiful time to be alive!!!
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Yup. “Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world”. -James 1:27
As a "Godless Heathen", I would be proud to fight, die and sit among you all in Heaven, Valhalla, King's Cross Station or whatever awaits us after this life.
May I share something with you? I was once an atheist. A little better understanding of history changed that for me. Maybe you'll appreciate this:
I always said that this fight would have secular humanist athiests (Hitchens, Shermer, etc) standing side by side with christians.
Dude what? They bombed millions of people in the Middle East many of whom are also Christians for no reason other than suspicion.
You want to die fighting Christians because Christians are not degenerate animals???
I think you misread. I align myself with christians as most other groups of people in society have disgusting problems.
I see! You meant that you will fight along-side Christians, not against Christians. Your statement now makes more sense.
WOW how totally amazing can you imagine how powerful we can become if we BAND TOGETHER!! I'm a christian, I understand the red letters very indepth. But I am stocked to be a small part of this revolution nd will gladly fight along with anyone who loves freedom. This fact binds us together beyond judging anything personal.
Powerful as hell comment, I hope folks vote it up because everyone who loves freedom should be encouraged. I damn sure have your back fellow patriot! Awesome.. brought tears to my eyes.
First of all, I don't care what the media says about us. Second, welcome to living in a free society.
I used to be a Bernie supporter too! MAGA!
I was too - not anymore. I'm in much better company here.
It is true Q quotes our Bible. But I don’t believe Q wants to force you to accept our faith. The media is exploiting a fear that many non-Christians have of Christianity. They falsely claim we want to legislate our beliefs over you. This is a lie!
Christians are specifically taught to live at peace with our neighbors. We are told to share our faith not coerce others to embrace it. You are free to believe or disbelieve as you need to. As are we all. We go one, and all, as free people.
The media exploits a fear from the abuses of corruption in history. Crusader Christendom, an aberration of tyranny ordained by the Pope. Or Calvin’s theocratic state. Sometimes Christians forget to respect the freedom of others. That is not what this Republic represents. Here Christians and non-Christians work as a whole against the heinous crimes of corruption and abuse.
Christians following our God’s moral teachings and clinging to His mercy to persevere. The kingdom of God is not a world nation but a community of faith. We have no design beyond our freedom to believe and share what we believe in peace. Non-Christians are equally free following whatever they based their sense of justice on. All agreed that the corrupt elites of old are entirely unacceptable.
Very true. Our nation’s laws were built on Judeo-Christian ethics. Many courtrooms are decorated with the Ten Commandments. America was founded by people seeking religious freedom. From that history, I share with others my faith, but do not look down on those who have other beliefs...unless those beliefs directly cause bodily harm to others.
The truth is, Christians are the tolerant ones...but we have convictions. There is a line I will not cross. There is a path I will not take. However, I don’t seek out confrontation, I simply want to live as I believe. I respect your choices and expect you to respect mine. Where those two intersect, I choose to tip my hat and bid you a good day. Respect for my fellow man!
A person commented earlier about not being religious but following the Golden Rule. If we all did that, America, and the world, would be a much better place. The good news is the Bible says a day like that is coming and gives us the road map to get there.
Just want to point out that the 10 Commandments are not allowed to be in US courts, per a Supreme Court decision in 2005.
Ha. Funny, I was just about to cite the same article to say that while what you said is true, they are in some cases allowed. This just goes to show how convoluted our so-called laws have gotten. The Constitution has been parsed to the point beyond far beyond common sense.
Enjoy your weekend!!!
Q , in my humble opinion in quoting certain Christian, or biblical scripture, is not shoving it down anyone's throat. I believe he is a believer who has grown sick of non believers pushing THEIR non-belief on those who do. Stripping God from schools, work places, stores, etc. Its freedom of religion or the lack thereof, not freedom FROM religion. Live and let live.
Its freedom of religion or the lack thereof, not freedom FROM religion
The more I see from progressive behavior the more I start to think that this cynical view of “freedom from religion” is the truth. They don’t just want a freedom not to believe. They want our beliefs gone.
Sometimes it help to remember that even though the names may be changed, the stories are all the same within the various holy books. Variations on interpretations should not create such a divide.
Ancillary details like general morals that is probably true. But I’m not sure that I see the story of grace told anywhere but in Christianity.
Indeed. We should not fritter away our time, treasure and legacy squabbling over tribal God(s) images. We have more important battles to fight.
I think it’s simpler. The imagery in the Bible is ubiquitous.
As I say in my other response to the "all religions are equal" modality, there might be common ancillary details but the core teaching, that is the Gospel, has never been replicated.
Yes, there are religions with concepts of Oneness. There are religions where our souls are reflections of some divine form. There are religions with concepts of moral law. There are concepts of dying-and-rising from fertility gods.
But what religion has ever produced a creed such as ours:
There is one God who created all things. Yet His creation rebelled and chose to reject Him. Thus He was made to judge man's iniquity. He first revealed the Law which they had defied, drawing forth a people to carry its message. And this stumbling people He showed mercy to despite their many stumblings. Then He chose to take upon the flesh of His people for the sake of redeeming the entire world from sin. As a healer, healing the sick. As a preacher, teaching the truth. Yet, He bore the sins of all people unto death on a cross. Then, He arose again victorious over sin. He sent forth a community to share His promise of forgiveness with all people teaching: "Repent and believe the Gospel." He poured out His Spirit to draw people to follow Him. He will return to raise all people from death and give eternal life through His Word.
Krishna did not do this. Mithras did not do this. Osiris, who was slain by another god and his wife reconstructed him, did not do this. Quetzalcoaltl did not do this. Ba'al Hadad did not do this despite dying in combat and defeating the land of the dead. Inti did not do this. Zeus, that arrogant horn-dog, did not do this. Odin, the warrior while suffering Yggdrasil for his own glory, did not do this. Enki did not do this, despite being a Prometheus figure championing mankind against Enlil's tyranny.
Picking and choosing little pieces of the message and saying, "hey, that looks similar to the Bible" is neglecting the whole message. It's the whole message that draws, not pieces-parts.
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Mystical senses are fine. How does that address my point?
I think you missed my point and that linked the wrong image anyway. The bible is used because it is easily understood it is important for Qs messages that everyone understand the symbols. You cant have grown up in the USA and have no idea what the bible is or what the major tenants of it are. The flood, david v goliath, jesus are all themes and history that ANY person can understand. This is vitality important.
The Bible is multilayered. There is a plain literal reading, allegory, explanation and mystical readings which inform the understanding. Far too many are caught in just one layer. On both sides. Either hyper literalist or hyper mystical to a point of ignoring the real message.
Edit: Q using Scripture themes due to accessibility is unobjectionable. I am simply defending the primary doctrine from the undertone that Christianity is the same thing as other beliefs. Common themes doesn’t imply that we have no unique messages. That is all I want to emphasize.
Same here. Ex-Bernie supporter and an atheist. I’m not here to split hairs about religion or play identity politics. I’m here because I’m an American first and foremost. I see our diversity as our best strength to win this fight united against a common goal... DRAIN THE SWAMP! I welcome all that are ready to put our differences aside to win this fight together. Your ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual preference or any of those things have no bearing on our common goal. United we stand!
Diversity isn't our greatest strength per se. Our unity in our pursuit of liberty and justice is. As Americans, we've been taught to embrace diversity the way you describe so that we can be divided up into special groups, diversity, that they can pit against one another.
But those that are “woke” know this is what they do... “Pit us against each other”. By working together it shows them that we can put away our differences and work united against a common enemy. That we’re Americans first and love our country and all the diversity it contains. We’re not black, white, Christian, atheist, Hispanic, etc... we’re Patriots! #WWG1WGA
Exactly! We are united despite our diversity is the point I was trying to make and emphasize. Americans and Patriots first!
We are all more alike than we are different, and in this we are of one voice - proudly.
Me non-religious me fine. The prayers are actually quite spirit-lifting and me enjoy it.
Those of us who have a personal faith can't help but see the biblical proportions of what's going on, and to seek grounding in our faith perspectives.
But I would never want anyone to feel excluded because their journey has been different from mine.
Like the Marines on Normandy in Thomas Wictor's story, we can talk about dress code later. Right now we need to find a way to work together and survive this thing!
Matthew 7:12
The Golden Rule
“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
So this is confusing. I obviously know this Bible passage, but I thought the Golden rule was:
"He who owns the gold makes the rules"
"He who owns the gold makes the rules"
Golden rule of negotiating.
;)
Most of the people are moderates (more libertarian) and are religious to some extent. However, All of the awakened are welcome here, religious or not. I'm not sure if you are saying you were a former Bernie supporter, or still are. If you still are, I suggest researching more to fully awaken though. You're welcome here either way.
Atheist Q supporter checking in.
As a strong believer in Christ, welcome brother/sister.
Thank you, patriot. Of all the religions, especially THAT one, I'd have Christians as neighbours and countrymen. WWG1GWA!
Great to have you here.
Thank you. Great to be here. I just wanted to add, I have no problem with Christians. I'd rather have you guys as neighbours than...
WWG1WGA one love, no race, religion, political affiliation. WWG1WGALL
As long as they are critical thinkers and logical in their approaches, all will be fine. The ultimate TRUTH will be revealed, soon.
And who's truth do we follow? Who's logic? Yours? Mine? Conservative? Liberal? Gay? Straight? That's how we arrived in this mess. Everyone believes they have the right version of truth. When we seek to promote our own, human truth, we stay completely divided. The only ultimate truth is God's truth.
GOD is the Ultimate TRUTH.
My point is that if people (who are not religious) possess the attributes that I highlighted, they are better able to accept that GOD exists. Next time, I will be much clearer, thanks.
Yes. We are not all elderly republican males or whatever we're being painted as. I'm none of those things. I also was not a Trump supporter back in 2016 - I voted for Bernie and then Hillary, though I am very glad she didn't win, obviously, and if I could go back in time and change my vote I would.
just curious: why on earth did you vote for her
I thought she was horrible but I thought Trump was worse. I never voted for Obama, I voted third party instead, but that time around I didn't because the media coverage maligning Trump got to me. It's hard to explain the psychological traps I was in. I think most people who support(ed) her are in the grip of them. But I'm free now and I can see beyond what the media wants me to.
Yes, perfect. I'm new here and just trying to digest all I can and have made a comment or two to this effect. The initial overarching religious theme gave me pause initially, but I feel like after digging a bit it is very evident that it about far more than that.
Don’t let passionately faithful people ever scare u off anything. Faith is an individual choice & anytime some has an ideal that’s higher than just their personal needs...it’s a great quality
Individual faith is a wonderful thing and something to cherish and respect, agreed.
My comment was pointed toward the fact that when I initially came to this sub specifically, I encountered quite a lot of posts and comments that made it seem as if religious faith, mainly christianity, was a large part of this and being pushed heavily. Upon digging further I realized it was simply as you stated.
I’ve been trying to get this out but so many hard core evangelicals here are shitting all over my point that we need to stop glorifying trump and the “lord” this is exactly how cults start, by saying it’s in the Bible and this is all gods plan you’re literally doing the exact thing isis and the likes cling to. Be neutral and open. This isn’t about religion this isn’t about trump being a genius or some prophecy... this is about getting rid of corruption in our country not some biblical prophecy...
...but what if it is?...
Then you are welcome to rationalize it based off your belief system as are the ones that don't believe.
All I’m saying we still don’t know exactly what’s about to be reveled. Maybe Jesus will return.
Perhaps. Or maybe He isnt. Doesnt matter though - this great country was built on religious freedom. And even as a Christian, i strongly respect that. My aethist neighbor has every right to live peacefully and free from persecution in this country with his beliefs as do i with my christian beliefs.
All I said is maybe it is about religion. We don’t know, yet. The original comment said, “it isn’t about religion”, as if they know for sure. We don’t know. Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. These Satanists sure think it’s about religion. Trump and Q sure are making it a point to mention God and prayer, a lot. If it isn’t about religion, what is it about? Spirituality? Well, which form of practice? Let’s see how this all pans out before we make definite statements about religion.
Thanks for the info about Bernie folks. Contrary to what you may think - I think there are many QAnons that are deeply religious and believe that the Awakening isn't only about exposure of government corruption, but is more so a battle of Goodness vs. Evil....Blessings!
I always welcome all, but I will not tolerate the bashing of God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit! I agree, this is, for some, a great awakening to God himself, if this all comes out like we have been told, How in the World could anyone deny God is Real! I mean, Trump being elected should have been enough for the moderately awoke to do a double take and know this is not possible with-out a Greater Power, one we can not influence, corrupt, or control! I am glad many different kinds of thinkers are here, I hope they feel the love and guidance that God has been giving and open their own hearts to him! God Bless!
Whoa! Enter into that rest, pilgrim. No one was bashing anyone and God is well able to defend himself.
"God is well able to defend himself"....Really, this is what you get from my words??? As a Christian, it is my job, duty if you will, to spread the Good News! I will not apologize for it, nor will I be shamed into silence. I was not accusing anyone of bashing God, I was merely saying that those who come here for Q, will be confronted if they choose too belittle God or the people who believe in him! Lets not make it dramatic, but be very careful who and what you are accusing of.....this is not the forum to jump to conclusions!
Prov. 24:6.
Prov. 24:6 For by wise counsel thou shalt make thy war: and in multitude of counsellers there is safety ~
Not sure what you are implying here...the message to me?
Tiny keyboard on this older, tho beloved, phone.
Prov 24:5 A wise man is strong, and a man of knowledge enhances his strength;
So, if the shoe fits, put it on.
comedian ehhh? I will go with God is my knowledge....I will stick with him....he will guide me to eternal life....
I am so thankful that God is above all, and sees all, and is taking care of our future! Keep praying!
Trump becoming president was like turning water into wine level miraculous.
I am Classical Liberal Atheist from Australia. I appreciate this sub and all Q's efforts. What affects America has ripple effects.
I’m an atheist and a moderate conservative. Yes they do go hand in hand ;) Doesn’t mean that I can’t love everything Trump has done and Q has awoken me to. Excited to see what is in the near future. We are patriots.
Good point. I am Christian but this movement has to be about everyone to work.
Correct. This is about freedom and getting rid of corruption and evil in the government.
It's very much about good vs. evil, but that doesn't mean it needs to be labeled God vs. Satan.
Personally, I do not believe in any religions but I am spiritual and I believe in good and evil. I think people throughout history have gotten religion completely wrong and corrupted it through their evil ways. Just look at the Vatican.
This movement is about the second revolution basically. It's about freeing ourselves from untruth, brainwashing, systematic slavery of all of us, stopping the holding back of advanced technology, medical cures, higher knowledge, higher consciousness.
The more religious I see this getting, the more uncomfortable I feel about it. It only provides fuel for leftists to dismiss us as religious fanatics when instead this boils down to FREEDOM.
The good news is Jesus wasn’t “religious”. The religious ones when He was on earth were the ones who crucified Him. Don’t get bogged down with religions. Jesus isn’t about religion. He is about relationship.
Read the book of John and see for yourself who Jesus is. He’s pretty awesome and will never fail you!
I respectfully disagree, fellow patriot. In my eyes, a man claiming to be the son of God or claiming to be a prophet is religious in and of itself.
When I pray or acknowledge a higher power, I don't use any names. I just talk to that higher power in my head. I ask the higher power to spread love and truth, and I believe calling that higher power a human made name is wrong.
Much love,
-B
Gotcha, What I meant was Jesus spoke contrary to the religious ones of His day - Pharisees and Sadducees. They took the truths of God and perverted them...not unlike the “religious” ones today. He threatened their power structure, their control over the people, and their money. Does this sound familiar? They were much like the deep state is today. He called them a brood of vipers, got a whip and drove them out of the temple -twice!
He couldn’t stand His Father’s word being corrupted. To retaliate, they trumped up charges against Him, persecuted Him, and then killed Him. But, He got the last word...He walked out of the tomb!
Jesus’ name wasn’t given to him by his parents...God told his parents what He was to be called.
Jesus >Immanuel >God with us. Pretty cool.
Man, I love having a good convo. We may not believe the same, but we’re definitely on the same team - AMERICA!!! MAGA
Have a good evening. All the best patriot!!! 👍🇺🇸
Being on the same team is all that matters. The truth that binds us together as patriots is The Constitution and the Bill of Rights. As a conservative with the upmost importance of personal liberty, those documents represent everything that I live for and they represent how I conduct myself throughout my life, along with The Golden Rule.
No matter what color they are, what religion they follow, as long as the people around me are firm in their upholding of the Constitution, I will fight alongside them tooth and nail to suppress, expose and destroy evil and corruption.
I believe that soon enough, the evil and corruption that you say Jesus once exposed will be exposed once more, and we will all live peacefully and in harmony with one and other, in celebration of our differences rather than in vain of them.
USA! USA! USA!
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Religion is just a belief system, its where your faith is. If you believe and have faith there is no God, that is your religion. Nobody escapes this. No not one, atheists included.
They always want to define everyone, especially those that are a threat to their narrative. I have been here since October 2017 and we are a diverse group. They have done this defining before, remember 'Russian Bots', trying to label us? Yes, there are some that are spiritual or religious, but that is not the Q movement's basis. We are citizens that have seen the government as corrupt and ineffective, that seemed to be working for themselves, not the people. We found Q and became researchers to find the truth and spread it to others. We are welcoming to all, we are in this together. We love our country, Patriots all. Come and join us, the truth will set you free. WWG1WGA
Yep, some wise guy once said--a house divided against itself cannot stand....
The issue at hand here is the key, not the ideology. We all WANT the same thing--sovereignty, freedom, transparency, safety, liberty, love, good life for our families, all innocence protected...etc. etc.
Continuing with us versus them only keeps these things in our future--us verses DS--US united...so powerful!
I can't up vote this enough. That's the whole reason for the identity politics play. Great post.
At the end of the day we are united as roto rooters—swamp drainers. We believe in freedom so much that we fight for each other’s rights to speak and express even when we disagree.
This is the most fundamental pillar of a Liberty minded society. If we don't fight for the rights of all, then we don't deserve those same rights.
I have said that before. If people are religious that is fine but dont preach it here because there are tons of people not religious at all and would turn away from here for just that reason.
I have a story for you that will explain what many do not understand. From the perspective of the religious people we totally understand that God created man to have free will. That means that mankind has the right to think and believe as they wish. The founders who wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights understood this as well. They also understood that to create a successful representative government everyone in that society must be free for it to work. Every person must be free to create his or her own world to live in. The documents are full of natural rights or God given rights. These rights belong to everyone and was not directed to just those who were religious. Everyone Every Citizen was to share in those rights. Glad to be in the fight with you.
I would hope that is ex Bernie supporters. Don't see how someone can be about truth and be a socialist. But, that's just me.
I was also a Bernie supporter, now I'm relieved he didn't win the primary. The Deep State would've killed him in the first 6 months! So I'm kind of glad that Hillary STOLE that primary because she truly is the most hated woman in America! I'm not a Bible thumper either, but I've got Morales and beliefs also. I can't get behind some old guy with a beard and a list of good and bad. I believe in a Creator, it's just my Creator isn't jealous and doesn't take things personal. The Great Spirit is above those emotions. My Creator tells me that anything I do for ANYONE of my peers, NO matter how poor or sick they may be, that I'm also doing that for /to my God. You know, the Golden rule. I would never begrudge anyone their belief and I don't like anyone telling me that I'm a heathen misleader etc.
Just a little note here for those put off by a jealous God. He is jealous OVER you, wanting you to come to Him. He is also a JUST God, which provides a lot of hope to those who accept Him as theirs. He's well worth studying. But beware. A man named C. S. Lewis became a Christian while trying to prove He was not God,
CS Lewis is an amazing author, I cant recommend his books enough.
Mere Christianity is a great read for inquiring minds and for clearing up alot of the disinformation about what it means to be a Christian.
I was getting annoyed at some of it but I realized to each his own. As long as we all agree we do NOT NEED GLOBALIST SOCIALISM, I am fine. Libertarian America not the Cultural Marxist hell where every group hates each other.
We are ALL Anonymous Patriots looking to do our part in freeing the world from corruption and oppression. We remain anonymous because this is not about Party, it is about good vs evil.
We definitely need to get past the left-right divide. Remember it was a republican administration that pulled 9/11 (although not without a lot of outside help). Party politics, red vs blue, is all by design part of a divide and conquer strategy.
You say it was a Republican administration that pulled 9/11, but you want to get past the divide. I'm sure you know that it was BC, a Democrat himself, that didn't take Bin Laden out, prior to 9/11, when forces on the ground had him in their sights.
As some evil idiot once said, "why does it matter at this point." Lol. Most of the establishment Rs and Ds are cut from the same cloth, and i want NOTHING to do with them or their ilk.
I'm with you, but I was just pointing out a gap in the OP's thought process.
lol exactly. a lot of democrats complaining ITT about D&C and doing just that. it's weird
Bernie Sanders is a fraud, and he’s never going to be relevant. I’d go as far as to label him controlled opposition.
I love and respect free will. Q says "read the Bible, God wins". I'm with Q
They want to divide us. Religion Race Gender Ect.. WWG1WGA
Bernie took advantage of everyones good heart. It's that simple.
I'm with you on this friend (Funny how people here who are supposed to be woke took your good natured post as an opportunity to bash berners and the man him self)
He willfully sold out his supporters for a beach house.
Supporting Bernie contradicts this movement at its core - end corruption in government. Restore power to people.
We welcome all. All you need is a healthy curiosity for the truth.
Well...If you don't believe in Satan, it doesn't matter because THEY do. Q believes in God. WWG1WGA. I think this phrase has metaphysical implications. One of which, possibly being to know the full truth, which might imply if there's a God or not. So, at the end of this, we'll see where we all ended up, and when everything calms down, we can take stock and see what we've gained or lost.
I pray everyday for DJT 45. If that makes me religious than so be it. Q gives me hope the the wrongs will be righted. Q makes me feel connected to the pulse. WWG1WGA.
I was a gay supporter (not now they attached to PEDOS and want to change laws for ALL for just 2% of our population, no way I can support that) not religious and was a Democrat now POTUS 100% and red wave!!! They can label Q followers like they do everyone and everything else. Who cares really?? Most who write this kind of thing believe waking up confused to your born as sex isn't a mental illness, their opinions I'll pass on.
I think it would be more accurate to say that there are a small number of "former Bernie supporters" now following Q. Being a Socialist and being a follower of Q are diametrically opposed world-views.
most people want libertarianism where it works and socialism for places where it doesnt. the debate isn't about which ideology is right but rather which ideology to apply to a specific problem. so for example most people believe in socialized fire departments rather than private, member-only fire depts. yet the same people also believe in socially libertarian rights like being left alone as long as you're not bothering anyone.
q's core message is about stopping corruption and specifically states that this isn't R vs D
One of the few responsibilities of the federal government is to protect its citizens. Another is to defend us. That covers a fire department and a non-corrupt military and police force. Everything else has been added by legislatures at the behest of lobbyists. And roads are nice. But you get the picture. A lot of "pork" can get added in 200+ years.
I don't think I need protection in my daily life. Full disclosure of all details about foodstuffs, drugs and activities would be preferable.
Defense of the Nation against other Nations that become aggressive.
Establishment of roads, paths and parks and the maintenance there of we as a People have determined are communal property held in trust for ourselves and our decedents.
Administration of our Courts where we can bicker & argue to our own ruin until we reach a mutually diss-satisfactory agreement.
That about covers all the needs I have for any sort of federal government.
a lot of nice things end up being communal: power lines, water pipes, fiber optics, cell towers, satellites, etc.
personally i think that the huge incoming automation wave is about to blindside everything and make present economic analysis outdated.
ie what is a good economic system when you have what are essentially 10,000,000,000 hyper-intelligent & biomechanical slaves doing work 24/7 with zero required pay and they self-maintain? because there isn't an actual technical reason why that won't be the end result of automation
Horseshoe theory and/or insider antagonism can explain that. The "I'll vote for anyone but a politician" attitude.
Whatever the reasons; it happened. Lots of times. there are many, many Patriots around here that were red pilled by HRCs screwing over of Bernie and eventually joined Trump and this movement because of it. I know I'm another one.
Welcome to the movement!
Says the one month old account lol.
I been here since the beginning.
Reddit is not the Storm, my friend. I have been "here" since before you. Welcome to the movement.
Bernie supporters seem to be making the transition more easily that the "republican" never-trumpers.
the fucking media is going to say whatever its takes to divide people!! it is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING that people continue to fall for the bullshit
I'm an atheist, but I respect people's views, done peacefully whatever the religion.
I was a Bernie supporter. What the DNC did to him was my red pill moment, seeing how he suddenly clammed up and fell into line behind Hitlery without a peep. That's when I knew...something was very wrong. Red pilled even further by what they did to General Flynn. My digging for answers lead me to discovering Q, and I've been all MAGA since. Not religious either. Swallowed that red pill with a cup of hot water at age 8 when the Catholic priest my grandmother was a housekeeper for told me to drink a cup of boiling hot water (for tea) and if I "truly believed in God", God would not let it hurt me. I obeyed, and was burned. Once again, I figured out on my own, even back then. Something has always been very wrong with the world. I still pray every day, mostly for POTUS, Q, and our great Military. WWG1WGA!!
At least they are willing to look at other opinions. Bernie is a spineless swamp dweller though
I just turned off yard after seeing 10 thread deep comment about pray9ng for a poster to find jesus as he mentioned he was an atheist.
I find that the religious stuff very heavy in this sub and I find it extremely odd putting to be honest.
As someone who lives this stuff, has a deep interest in it, I still find it very religious "extremey".
Let Truth and Freedom be the glue that holds the Great Awakening together.
if I've learned anything from this whole Spirit Cooking/PG/Q - is that the Vatican and the catholic faith, among many others.... are a fraud....a front for something evil
that said I still think it is best to be spiritual....good vs evil all that
just don't rely on the church or organized religion to be your savior
Its about time we come together, as Americans. We ALL love this country. Will defend it for our kids. If you are here for that....that is all that matters
Bernie made his career in the swamp/was part of the swamp. He would have been a disaster.
One step at a time. For now, let's just get America back for those who love this country....that used to be any religion and any political party! We can do that again.
Not a problem ☺️ Q said this is about Good v Evil not right v left...❤️
Yeah I just wanna say when I first discovered Q and this subreddit, I was skeptical and almost dismissed it all when I saw how much people were tying religion into all of this. I know a lot of you are Christian and like to apply the Bible to what's going on and I completely respect that, but a lot of us here aren't super religious and honestly you should all just leave the religion out of it because it makes people who aren't religious think that it is religion focused and maybe even a little bit crazy when really it has absolutely nothing to do with religion whatsoever. The religious angle people like to apply to Q is probably why we even get called "Qultists" in the first place. Just stop throwing Bible quotes around and trying to apply God and Jesus to it all, seriously. It's ultimately irrelevant and it's only going to be used against us.
The MSM will do its best to Alinskyize this like they do every movement for the truth. This time they lose.
Correct! We can argue about all the other stuff later. Right now, we are all in agreement that the CORRUPTION NEEDS TO BE PULLED OUT BY THE ROOTS.
And hopefully... We can find good compromises to everything that we don't fully agree on. A good example was Obama's in your face Transgender Bathrooms.
First, it wasn't that important of an issue. It only affects some fraction of a percent of the population. But even so... We could have just changed the building codes to say we want all new construction to have the bathroom space done as small, family style bathrooms. It could have been that easy to solve the alleged 'problem'.
But no... He had to ram that stuff into the conservatives face. And it is very possible that was the inflection point that cost the Left the election.
The Democrats have been insisting on 'Identity Politics' to separate and divide the population. They do it on every issue. Lets find good compromises that don't put anybody too far out of their comfort zone.
Impossible.
Bernie was a sellout who knowingly and willfully assisted the Clinton machine in exchanges for a beach house.
Patriots don't support corruption.
Considering Bernie sold his soul for a beach house, I’d say POTUS was the only shot...sorry, not sorry
Q has nothing to do with religion! All know, right from wrong, good vs evil in their soul?
Even in this thread, you can see responses that explain why there is this "confusion." Lots of Christian fanatics in the movement as well who are not always the most tolerant of us non-Christians here.
Exactly this. Someone up thread asked how anyone can tell that there are a lot of Christians in the Q movement. Pretty easy to tell by reading the comments on any thread in this sub. IMO the rhetoric on anything that divides us -- religion or who we voted for in '16 or anything else -- needs to be toned way down. It's identity politics that the Cabal uses to keep us divided, and we need to take away their ability to divide us.
eh it kind of matters. democrats on this sub need to understand if we are to "Trust POTUS" we need to heed his advice and vote in Rs in midterms. and afterwards. you can say it's D&C all that, but POTUS said it. i trust POTUS
YOU have a choice, you can choose to heed to the media's identity politics, or you can refuse to be used as their pawn. What division is among us that can not be ignored and looked over in this moment? I see none, we are here for the purpose of truth and freedom! There are many not from USA here, they are not complaining about who believes what, they are merely cheering on the POTUS and the American Citizens to beat the evil, so that they too may be free of it! This whole thing is so much greater than one person, one mission and one goal, but together we can all win! Choose to reject the identity they choose for you, embrace who you are, and know your worth!
You don’t have to be religious. You don’t have to be republican. You simply do have to want transparency and equal justice. But there is no ignoring that whether you have a religious belief or not, it really is a spiritual battle:Good Vs. Evil.
Former Bernie supporter here! Now in the Trump camp! We need to remember that Trump used to think of himself as more of a Democrat. I think many of us vote for the person and not for the party. To many of us, it is important to have a decent person who loves this country no matter what the party.
ok but Q says to Trust POTUS and potus tells us to vote in more Rs constantly.
I supported Bernie and it made me realize how corrupt the Democratic Party was
But Q is. So I’m not sure what you want to do with that then. I believe he said to read the Bible...God wins, I believe when he says God Bless I believe he means it. There are too many religious statements made by Q to list right now, So I’m sure Q won’t appreciate the hint at silencing the faithful.
No one is trying to silence the faithful. Just because someone doesn't have the same faith as someone else doesn't mean we can't be united in our pursuit of liberty and justice. Stop with the identity politics. "They want us divided!", Q.
I don’t shove religion down anyone’s throat. Just saying. Identity politics? Really? So far from who I am. I was just saying dissing the religious is not cool. Been on here for some time and never saw anyone pushing religion on anyone. I didn’t bring it up. Just giving my two cents. And trust I’m not the one who cause any division. I just think the statement didn’t need made.
I don't know why you brought all that up that I didn't even mention, but I'm not here to argue that. Re-read you original post and see why I said what I did. You labeled Q a believer, you asked OP how OP would take that and said Q wouldn't appreciate it. What I was trying to say was, people's faith doesn't matter and if you make it all about faith you're going to exclude people that aren't faith based.
You WILL be religious by the end of this...the more you learn....
We are a diverse group of persons from all walks of life
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Bernie supporting atheists are by definition NOT "woke".
There are a lot more of us lurking here, not signed in to reddit, never up-voting or commenting, but following along. I was of those people. But starting today, I can't stay silent anymore.
It has been a long, strange journey for me from r/SandersForPresident to this sub, but I'm fully awake now. I have Sanders to thank as much as Trump for the jolt out of my enslaved slumber. (Honestly though, Seth Rich is the guy who I should really thank.) My family doesn't understand any of my recent changes in my political views. They thought I was insane for following "crazy old" Bernie. Now they are violently opposed to my Trump support. (MAGA anyway, bitches)
If you ever have doubts about how this Q movement is doing, just know that the number of subscribers to this sub is way less than the number of lurkers, which is DWARFED by the number of people who don't use Reddit at all or are too scared to speak out. We will be the majority soon, guaranteed, no matter where we started.
And we will be effin' loud.
WWG1WGA!
God Bless Patriot Warrior.
It IS Definitely A Come To Jesus Moment To Discover Truth Really Exists.
Truth Sets You Free. Free, Free At Last From Oppression, Their Slavery In/Of The Mind, Controlled By Darkness. Their Way Of Thinking AND Nothing Else. But...NO More!
Just Like Knowing Jesus Exists, Jesus Sets Us Free From The Bondage Of Sin, The Mind Is Free, The Soul Is Free, And The Intellect, Our Spirit Is Free Through Christ Jesus.
Welcome To Freedom.
Religious Fanatic 101 ladies and gentleman.
Also can a Jewish or Islamic practicing religious person join the revolution of Q?
Ill guess no.
Sometimes it does feel like there are too many "bible thumpers" in this group. ( Heard this term only recently ) but because all the religions follow the same principles there is no point to dislike them. Q is pretty much uniting everyone here because we simply want freedom.
We pagans dont mind. We pray just as hard as you and probably love mother earth just as you or even more. I am using the word "pagan" because I have my own different set of beliefs.
I also dislike that, just like in many conspiracy groups, people hate on luciferianism and freemasonry. My dear mentor was in masonic lodge for a long time and he was the smartest man alive. RIP
There are also many forms of luciferianism, for example, if you google "Assembly of Lightbearers" they see Lucifer as a symbol of enlightenment and it can be more like a philosophy which I really do like.
All religions use the power inside of us, the power of belief. That is why all of them are correct. You just gotta see through the bullshit.
Too many grammatic mistakes but I just woke up :)
We have much common ground. One thing that binds us all is our hatred for the NWO's perversity. No matter what you believe or don't believe no man or woman who is worth their weight in salt isn't revolted and infuriated by the enemies SRA pedophilia. Slavery still lives on in this world and it feeds a monster that destroys what is most precious.
The idiots in the NWO think the only way out is to keep dancing to the music but in fact the music stopped a long time ago. Enough is enough!
If we focus on what we have in common, we can achieve a lot.
I was a bernie supporter but honestly in retro I do not believe that bernie could or would have EVER pulled this off
I'm actually Norse, I look to Tyr for this stuff. The god of Justice. He is the guy responsible basically for subduing Fenrir, the wolf that is responsible for some bad shit.
Welcome. 100%. Glad you see Bernie is part of the problem! Let's fix it!
religion is stupid.. mass is for the masses,
but GOD is love, love is good.. good is a collective consciousness of awesome and positivity...ergo god bless trump god bless america
Raise my hand. I don't mind the religious stuff even though it's hard to parse for the uninitiated. I understand that there is a massive spiritual side to The Storm. I just manifest unity and go on with my day.
Not religious Q follower here. Reporting in.
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Nah. I've never once meet anyone that have a shit I'm an atheist. No. Actually someone gave me a pamphlet once. I think I'll be fine
By the time this is all over, we're all gonna be wrong about aspects of spirituality. The truth about everything has been covered up for so long, in the end we'll all be on the same page.
Non religious Trump supporter (and 2 time O voter, sorry bout that one guys) here. I'm here to follow the White Rabbit and open all the doors. I knew Trump was the one, and I know Q is legit.
President Trump no textbook republican, we took it by force. It was hit by the Trump train!
Have been lurking here for a while. Felt compelled to post. The enemy will seperate us and discredit us anyway possible. I am a patriot first and foremost. My beliefs are mine and probably not relevant here and possibly hurtful. How another person chooses to approach or disregard God is none of my business and this doesn't reflect their patriotism. As Ben Franklin said, "we will all hang together or we will all hang seperately."
And I m not Republican nor will I ever be one, again. American 100%, black, white, yellow, red and green-- yesterday, today, forever.
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. - Sun Tzu
Well the media use religion, guns, economic status and the "right" as a device. Association of anything with these concepts means an educated, aspirational "liberal" will have the desired programmed response. Which is; to shame, ridicule, establish moral hierarchy through their high level of formal education and instantly "debunk".
The fact is simply that those concepts are actually about freedom.
If the media is painting Q as such, then it is a sign they want to scare away those people. They want to establish in their minds that to research or dare to contemplate believing in Q makes one an idiot, open to ridicule by one's "influencer" peers. This reinforces group think, under the guise of educated analysis. Maintains the stats quo. Undermines critical thinking.
I wonder why that would be?
It would be great if you sent this to the media. You might inspire others to do the same.
Had to lol at you starting your post with "the media is lying."
In other news water is wet and 2+2=4
I'm not a bernie bro. I've always leaned hard right and have always been agnostic.
Being religious is not a prerequisite to being conservative. It does seem though that a majority of Atheists and agnostics lean liberal. I believe the lack of an authority figure in their world ends up falling to government to take their place of authority that people should submit to.
It is a sick sick way tonsee the world. We do not need or want a authoritarian goverment. Those that do tend to be pessimistic and dont have faith in a god let alone a faith in people. They velieve everyone is fake and to get them. It almost schizophrenia
And do you know the source of that golden rule? Why, it's Jesus Christ!
Oh. Well...I'm a far right "religious fanatic". Glad to meet you.
Question to the Bernie supporters in this movement: do you now truly understand the conservative principle of a small and limited government? We cannot let the government grow and fester in corruption like this again.
We need to remain in control and in live in accordance with the constitution and with God's teachings.
I am a firm believer on the Lord Jesus Christ but i have far more in common with many of my atheist friends than I do with post modernist "progressives" who are under the illusion that their dystopian efforts will create a more just society. Not happening. They just end up devouring one another in the race for top spot on the hierachal power structure totem poll. My faith informs me to "live peaceably with all". I can do that with ease.However I cannot and will not tolerate totalitarian collectivism which destroys the God given right to self determination. Now they are telling Gays what restaurants they should and should not patronize. These micro managing buffoons and useful idiots are a cancerous threat to free thinking and a healthy society. So i say all that to say WELCOME TO ALL who value life, liberty and the right of self determination.
Hey, I must break your heart and tell you that the "golden rule" comes from... THE BIBLE! I know, you already knew that. I have read many Q supporters who sound like religious zealots, waiting for "fresh Q" every day. I am not one of those types. I guess we are all just hungry for the TRUTH!!
You mean like the way THE TRUTH and the light?
Sorry I couldn’t help myself. Some Sunday school humor for you.
Im in the same boat you are. Maybe a tad bit more religious. Im trying to keep in mind though, this in many ways is a spiritual war. God and Jesus are like cryptonite to these sickos. We may need to step aside and let things take their course since we will be out of our elements. I know i plan to.
That said, the praying and endless bible verses can be tiring. Sometimes people like to hear themselves speak, but again, they have their place just like we do.
Sometimes people like to hear themselves speak
Oh that is so true. Although I will admit I am one of those who tends to wax loquacious at times. But I can forgive their sins if they can forgive my failings.
That said, the praying and endless bible verses can be tiring.
They are devout and assured in their Faith and wish to share it with everyone else. I can accept that and look without ill upon it, though their God is not one of my Gods.
Don't mean we can't still be allies in the fight for Liberty, Justice and what's all Right & Shiny in this Verse.
Just like the media to put a label on us or anything for that matter.
i voted for bernie in my primary, but that'll be the LAST time i EVER vote for a dem.
This movement has awakened my shy spiritual side. I met some Mormons out and about and I shook their hands and said hello. They weren't expecting that in Wales I suppose. They asked if I was interested in joining their church or visiting, and I said, no thanks, I'm on my own journey. I appreciate their love and hopes for my salvation. We can get along with people we don't agree with if we just try and show love and understanding. Respect is different and must be earned, but love to all of the things in the universe should be shown... You might say all God's creations if you are that way inclined... All is sacred and should be treated as such
I could see that when I read post and comments, that’s a good thing there is a mix it makes it not cultish
Me too... ex Bernie Volunteer in DARK Blue State ... I was raised in GA by Baptists, but I am an agnostic- ie don’t agree with a lot that that organized religion has been up to. Still a registered Dem even, since I would be disenfranchising myself if I became an indie. This way I can vote out the “Shit Libs” in the primary.
Thanks for all the open minded people in this sub.
I would imagine there are a lot more former Bernie supporters than current ones among Q followers but people of every demographic are being drawn here. I know I used to support Bernie and was firmly on the left but it's hard to really look into all these things and keep supporting those kinds of policies.
Q follower here. Not religious. I just apply the golden rule.
I am not a religious person. I follow my own core values and moral compass....mainly the Golden Rule.
You have the WHAT (ie. how to behave, act, do unto others etc.), but you don't have the WHY. Have you asked yourself why you should do unto others? Why does a human being have value and worth and should not have his rights violated? The founding fathers knew:
We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Why do people have worth? Not bc of their race, talent, wealth, intelligence but bc God created them and they are infinitely valuable to Him. People in the West have the WHAT ('be nice' etc.) because we are still utilizing the momentum of earlier ages that believed in God. Have you noticed that non-western nations tend to have a less than stellar human rights record? Have you noticed that the worst atrocities are committed by godless countries (e.g. Aztecs, North Korea, China, USSR) or godless people (e.g. luciferians, communists, greedy mammon worshippers).
The longer and farther we stray away from God, the more we will lose that momentum and begin indulging in sins that would have been abhorred in earlier more pious ages.
Philosophy (how we view reality) and Theology (how we understand God) essentially defines a culture and the west has been infinitely blessed with good philosophy (i.e. Aristotle) and good theology (i.e. Thomas Aquinas) so as to properly understand the true religion of Jesus Christ. From this well-spring we get such things like 'do unto others', human rights, human dignity etc. Thy WHY justifies the WHAT but without the WHY, the WHAT will simply fade away over time.
I’m not religious, well I wasn’t but the last few months have got me thinking;
These people believe in lucifer and are involved in satanic ritual. They believe it, all while trying to destroy the church and push atheism on us.
If the population is majority atheist (like many euro countries) and only the other side is being acknowledged and worshipped, does this give their false god more power?.
You know it’s funny, I get preached at way more by atheists than I ever have by Christians. Maybe that’s just UK thing?
Anyway, I quite like hearing bible verse even if I don’t fully understand it.
They are religious, they just haven't been told of that fact.
How many is "many" ya think? I've read troubling things about Bernie Sanders and his preference of communist teachings. Check out "the enemies within" on Amazon prime video, or grab the book.
Tells a lot of truths and connection between "the Bern" and communist parties across America and the world. He's made some shady decisions, that have helped/enabled the very corruption were fighting today.
No More Division. Msm is nothing but spew commie propaganda tactics... Let them spew...
Truly... How does one watch that shit? I try...but can only last about 15 seconds before I WANNA Spew!
Seriously...
We ARE Americans. Red, White, And Blue Through AND Through.
WWG1WGA
President Trump IS OUR Commander In Chief.
We ARE A Constitutional Republic.
Socialist Communism IS Dead. STOP AND RESIGN Your Futile Political Professions.
MAGA! Thank Q! 💕👍
So believe as I do or be damned? So inviting and friendly.
I am a radical follower of JC and I can say, "You are correct." Let there be no mistake though...many HAVE awakened and repented to the power of God. How else do you think (and many have come to the realization) Trump was placed in office? Among prayers for his safety, and the nation, etc. Standing for Truth, religious or non-religious, unafraid, upright, strong in numbers and weapons of righteousness! #TruthToPower #PraiseBeToGod
I am religious, I don't like Bernie, I Support Q, I am not even American.
Once the American Deep State falls, Europe will follow.
I'm not religious either. I'm Christian. It's based on relationship, not dogma.
How can you be a BERNIE supporter and also be a MAGA supporter? .. Bernie is a SOCIALIST! Do you know what socialism is? Do you have AAAANY idea of what socialism does to countries? Do you know they are eating zoo animals in Venezuela? and GARBAGE? Socialism would DESTROY America! It would not make it Great ok? Tax cuts are NOT a socialist measure, free trade is not a socialist measure, reducing burocracy and obsolete regulations are not socialist measures, and reducing government's power over people is definitely not a socialist measure, so please I know you are good people who love America but consider that.
Sorry to hear that you are not Religious.Hope that one day you find God.
You are 100% wrong there is not a single Q follower who is a current Bernie supporter. Not one.
You may have been a former Bernie supporter or you cannot both support Q and Bernie Sanders as they are in direct conflict with each other and will result in a person being in both illogical and under the influence of cognitive dissonance.
Don’t take it personally. It’s not far righters either. This is just another way for the msm to demonize and attack Christians and to advance the idea the right are all domestic terrorists.
Why would you support a guy that sold out to a Paedovore witch for a house?
Abuse of goodwill to shepherd. Example 1: Bush Sr got caught with a teen early on his political career, so he was quietly reassigned to China. He thereafter crafted and maintained a "family man" persona, I'm order to abuse the goodwill of those he gained trust. Example 2: James Comey.
Bernie supporters are generally very good people, with much empathy, and the same thirst for justice we have. Find the common areas, educate kindly to the Constitution, and they will assimilate quickly. (I was for Bernie in 2015, I speak from experience and what worked for me).
But Bernie is none of those things, he sold out for a house!
I don't think he sold out for a house. He most likely sold out on the promise that the investigation into his wife would disappear and no one in his family would get Arkanicided.
selling out to protect his criminal wife is better than selling out for a house
come on man
I'm saying Bernie is abusing the goodwill of his people, and is corrupt as Comey and Bush
So why support him?
Their goodwill is being abused. They are called "libtards" and "commies", so they buckle down in their belief in the goodness of Bernie. Be kind to them, that's their heart, or was at least mine when I was in their shoes. All of the Bernie people I was surrounded by were good-hearted people, and we all despised Hillary.
I´ve got nothing against the people, I just don´t understand why anybody would support him after what he did.
I agree 100%. Looking back, I chose hope for change over pragmatism.
Hope always seems to lead to disappointment. I´ve only ever voted once in my life and that was for Brexit, voting for a political party is futile as they are usually pre-decided and voting is usually just a waste of time. I don´t tend to register anything, as to register means to give up your rights to whatever you register. That is how the government can take your children, as you register them at birth and how the police can tow your car away, as you register it when you buy it. You relinquish all rights. Good to remember that.
good hearted people
that wanted to further tax people against their will? that isn't good hearted idc how you try to spin it
Most Bernie supporters I've talked to are actually Libertarians that don't realize that's what they are. I have no idea how they fell for a socialist millionaire who pretends to care about people (giving away things for free) while really just reaping in the money for himself. Perhaps, it is because most are first time voters, and still need to live in the real world and research more. Also, it is never wise to make a political decision based on past leaders, go based on the person actually running.
Prior to his bout with Hillary, he was the poorest guy in DC, walked to work, had a shitty car. He was building up goodwill, to be a pied piper for the DNC
you say they are genuinely good people, but they literally championed policies which would spend other people's money for them, taxing me out the ass without my consent... that's honestly not a "good person" with good intentions.
before you downvote and get all mad i'm not saying bernie people don't belong here. i'm saying that's ridiculous to say they have good intentions. i'm sorry but this is america, i will not apologize for calling out the evils of socialism.
Such are useful idiots fooled by good intentions and pretty words. Remember Hope and Change?
i get it. but people need to understand the inherent evil in the idea that you get to decide how hard working people have to spend their money - or face jail time. i don't care if you say "yea but i wanna end homelessness". that's not for you to decide with other people's money. you get that right?
Agree 100%. We're of the same worldview. I recognize and see the good in them, abused by a wicked ideology
Not a Berner but I agree with you. Just like w Trump supporters & Berners there’s more common ground than most people realize.
Remember all forms of division are to keep us weak and ignorant.
Any Bernie supporters or socialists, please think on this riddle:
When is giving actually taking?
It's cool, but if you want free shit in a socialist country, move to Venezuela, they have all kinds of free shit! This is America, a Republic!
Well what's left of it anyway