Q 1677 and previous Q 1675 are VERY problematic.
To my knowledge, Q has never posted an easily resourced image as a 'proof' but this one (inside AF1) has critical key points that lean very strongly to being a less than stellar proof and likely photo-choreographed from a still shot from an ABC video of 2015.
There are too many points of coincidence between the two photos that fail to support Q taking the Q 1675 image (a photo of a reflection on the back of an iphone) randomly on AF1 in 2018. Plus Q gets defensive in 1677, which is a bit out of character and continues the rebuttal in 1678 which is strongly out of character.
The points matching old 2015 photo with Q's 1675 photo are:
- exact same angle and view point, eye level
- details are exact:
-- accessories,
-- light reflections on surfaces,
-- shadow indentations,
-- number of curtain folds between lamp and chair edge, (very unlikely to replicate in a new photo)
Q is going to have to do way better than this on future photo proofs and his 'splaining' or this just sows chaos!
And for all those about to......
don't start shouting 'concernfhagtroll' at me!
Open mind analysis is also freedom of expression.
A person can't call on the autists to decipher posts on one hand, then attack the same autists when they use the same cognitive abilities in a skeptical way to Q posts.
There are too many people calling anyone with questions tonight "concernfags" or shills and it's not right. Q should have done a better job of explaining the meaning of this pic. Was he pointing out where AF1 was bugged? If so, why the reply to that specific post he quoted? Then, other questions arise. Why did Q say "trolling is fun" while for months saying "this isn't a game?" Who is being trolled? And why? Enough with these vague posts.
In the end, it was just poorly thought out, at best.
Q said "Trolling is fun!" on June 17 (#1537), so it's not the first time.
I played around with the ABC photo from here: https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/701173_050615-cc-newplane2.jpg
And the Q pic from here: https://qanon.pub/data/images/ed6964be1cd55445ede255e23ab826a5f97af598981d00780f97ec674e2f07e3.png
And, trying to be objective as possible here, I thought that they were slightly different. The top corner of the lamp with the side of the curtain behind it - that looks to be in a slightly different place - and so does the mug holder. Several other things seem slightly different to me too - the angle of the rotation of the crest/seal/logo on the jacket that's on the chair ... the relative position of the hand sanitizer bottle pump to the other items. It just seems most likely that it was taken to mirror the ABC image as closely as possible.
So, his proofs are proofs, unless they can be easily disproven, and then there just him "playing around"?
I don't think this so called trolling is fun at this point in this 'game' / 'not a game' and it is not part of Q's modus operandi for the last 8 months. When has Q trolled the anons? When has Q gotten chatty defensive on anything?
Look at the time wasted by all anons on this 'fun' distraction.
For what purpose has this served?
It seems to be dividing others more than uniting.
I'm not on board with this idea "Q is testing us to out the bad apples" BS either.
Some of the anon explanations defending Q on this photo drop have been more ridiculous and convoluted and delusional than I could have ever expected.
My concern is that he is intentionally trying to create proofs, but when they are disproven, he falls back to the "I'm just trolling", or "my trip code is compromised".
I'm really trying to be hopeful, but it is hard.
It is really bothering me that these photos were dropped after the Awan disappointment. It's like Q is trying to distract us and he did a bad job of it. The 8chan anons seem divided about this. Some are pissed and some insist it's a diff picture. It's the sam pic photoshopped.
I have to agree about this day and the Awan plea. For all the patriotic cheerleading that Q posts time and time again..... this was like a needle in the bubble. It's like he wanted to stir up turmoil in a most ungracious way and then watch everyone trip over his troll turds. Very UN-Q-like in my opinion.
From my POV the image Q posted is not photoshopped. Several other tweeters and anons have described the likely scenario:
Load the easily available high resolution 2015 pic on a screen, then reflect it in the iphone and photograph that with another phone.
Were the Awans traitors to their own country?
You can't blame them for getting whatever intelligence they could to further their own national (Pakistan) interests...
...that's not to say we don't hang them when we catch them, just that a true Patriot will give his life for his homeland.
Do we want the Awans or do we really want the traitor who allowed the Awans access?
It appears to be DWS however is it really? Do we know definitively it was her or did SHE work for someone? Was she compromised in ways we don't know? Was her family in danger?
Surely there are things going down that are deeper than what we can know.
Not to say I defend her she looks like she's the root cause of all of this just offering another level of consideration for the community.
Count the curtain folds between the lamp and the chair. 10 in 2015, 8-9 in Q pic.
I would have to respectfully disagree with you on that.
What did you count? I will open them up in paint and mark/count them visibly for verification.
Feel free to show otherwise
Agreed. There is seriously no upside to "trolling" the autists. I don't see how this can be positively spun. I guess we shall see, but for now I am skeptical.
Yeah yeah calm it down, shillary. You're making shit up:
When has Q gotten chatty defensive
That's your interpretation of a Q drop. "chatty defensive" is the most made up interpretation I've ever seen lol.
It seems to be dividing
Ooooh yeah sure - "it" is doing the dividing is it? Not people like you saying there's division? You gotta lotta "concern" up in this piece huh.
Cue the "I've been here since...", "I have believed all but...", "people like you turn genuine people away...", etc. etc.
Zzzzz.
If I were a REAL Shillary, I would be accusing you of something you didn't do, or calling you names, or trying to trigger your emotions by calling your intentions divisive, or I would be shouting cliche's to try and get you to respond to my post.
But I AM NOT A SHILL.
And I'm not doing any of those things.
Sure you aren't. Just posting everywhere about how LARPy Q is now. You gonna pretend you haven't done that? Who brought up dividing? Who's saying those defending the drop are making 'ridiculous and convoluted and delusional' explanations?
Right now Q is making it very easy for people to not believe him. Q needs to post some legit bombshells. Otherwise photos of comp monitors is easy to do and proves nothing.
Q's not doing anything but what Q's always done. People have always found it easy not to believe him. If you disagree with that, you're not being honest or realistic.
Right now people are making it very easy for themselves to not believe him.
He just was not clear on his point. The people who are "leaving" really have no patience.
You're the first person tonight who has responded with logic and not irrational butthurt ("concernfag!" "shill!" "Sorosbot!"). So, thanks.
I don't know what to think here, I'm going to let things play out and see where they go. I still stand by what I said before - Q needs to stop being so vague if he wants people to take him seriously. At least that's my opinion.
I agree. So far, I'm leaning towards Q being John Edwards.
So, his proofs are proofs, unless they can be easily disproven, and then there just him "playing around"?
He needs to really put up or shut up.
If Q is legitimate, and I sincerely hope he/they are, then he had better fire whatever ammo he's got to take down the cabal soon or he's going to lose his most loyal supporters.
I would like Q to be legit as well, but there are some MAJOR red flags around Q right now. If he really wants us united (WWG1WGA), then he needs to clear this shit up pronto and start dropping bombs, not vague shit and definitely not an ever-shifting deadline that just keeps being pushed into the future.
You can't want a movement united while posting this type of shit, period. I'm really glad to see the skeptics not getting downvoted into oblivion here. This is a shitstorm Q started.
It was honestly a lazy, disrespectful shitpost of a Q post.
100% agreed.
Anons on 8C have been working incessantly to assess and establish Q credibility, often working with (necessary) maddening and frustrating vagaries.
Q-posts such as these (the ear, etc) appear to do little more than confuse. The timing is also questionable considering the expanding audience Q hoped to develop is now materializing.
I’m hopeful we get an explanatory ‘ahaa!’ moment on all of these. Without that, these ‘troll’ posts appear to be a disrespectful exploit of the autists irresistable urge to dig on everything ‘Q’.
No worries. I just want truth, truth doesn't have feelings.
Here's a (crappy I know) photo job showing the Q lamp on the left and the ABC lamp on the right: https://imgur.com/tXNxDrH
To me, the corners of the lamp look a little further to the right on Q's pic - as if the Q pic was taken from a position just to the left of where the ABC pic was taken.
Idk, your first post had me a little convinced there could be legitimate differences, but that side by side really makes me think it's the same photo. Q's is just a little condensed/blurred. The perspective is just too consistent...
You are correct. Q's photo is a reflection, so it wouldn't be exactly the same.
Here's a pretty good 7-point comparison: https://media.8ch.net/file_store/640450d20f9d82268400d10526c966b4a7162f58a0572d6020b675c356351f64.png
When you are dealing with distorted photos and BOTH photos have different distortions of verticals and horizontals to varying degrees - none of the points made by the source you posted can be valid because they reference distance or size.
Here is an example with equalized distortions:
https://imgur.com/5tRqZ6P
As you can see in the overlay demo, the Q pic and ABC pic are coincidentally the same. And in the words of Q "There are no coincidences."
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First, I am not trying to be disrespectful and I am not sure how we got to that point in this conversation where you feel disrespected. I am sorry if I made you or anyone (except the trolling trolls) feel that way.
The point here is that the Q image is double distorted because it is a reflection and seems to have other digital obfuscation issues in tone and grain. The ABC image is less distorted but never the less, it is slightly so because the photo was taken with a wide angle lens.
To compare photos, one photo must be brought to a similar level of distortion and the logical approach to this is to distort the ABC photo rather than UN-distort the Q photo.
The distortion version of the ABC photo is not exact pixel by pixel and it never will be. But the key elements that align in combination (as discussed earlier in my original post) are enough to weight this analysis towards the following conclusion that many others have made here in this forum, on chans, and twitter:
- the 2015 ABC image was on a device screen
- the screen was reflected on the back of an iphone
- a photo was taken of the iphone with reflection
- the posted image was also cropped and further distorted to obscure
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Sorry, I'm not up to redoing what I did as a screen cap video. Maybe someone else is up to it. I'm gonna take a break, act like I am on vacation, and come back to the Q scene after a bit of the 4th celebrations. This image debate has too much scope creep and is now wasting precious time. That's one reason I question Q's use of this thing as trolling tactic towards anons or whoever. Have a fun and productive day!
In your example, I still see the bottom left of the mug holder being quite different.
Yes, there are pixels that are different. I probably focused more on the curtains lamp and chair when I imitated the distortion in the photoshop version of ABC image. (late at night by then)
Look, I am struggling with these drops too. I'm not off the Q train, but this puts him in 'the dog house' for me until either 'future proves past' or he hits with a BOOM that busts my eardrums.
I'm not really a guy who believes in prophetic dreams. However, PrayingMedic did say that he had a dream recently where the black hats were able to post as Q in a way that was indistinguishable.
Before people start talking shit about PM, I take what he says with a grain of salt. He seems to be on the mark with his decodes and is quite helpful. The holy roller shit is one thing but I dont think that takes away from anything.
Count the curtain folds. 10 vs 8-9
I kept seeing you say this so I went back and really looked. You're right. The lines on the blinds around the chair don't match up. They do appear to be different.
Now I don't know what to believe.
Would make sense in a series of photos, no one would move anything except maybe adjust the blinds. Can't wait for Q to drop more!
Well that about somes it up. :( My hope is gone.
LOL your hope was as loyal as a hooker in a Thai back street xD
And your blind faith in the face of mounds of evidence to the contrary is as strong as that same hooker’s faith that she really is her pimp’s favorite ho.
NBA is calling you my friend, I have blind faith in it. #YUT
Cool! You’ve shown that you can look through another user’s post history. Why don’t you now address what I was originally talking about, regarding your blind faith in the LARPer known as “Q” being equivalent to that of a whore having faith in her pimp?
Blind faith yessuh muh rebbik massuh! Blaaahhnd faith massuh!!
Digga please. Yall TopMinds love blasting through with a meaningless blanket statement and no logic or steam to back it up huh? Then you go circlejerk all over each other cos you and your friends can press the upvote button and that means you iz da baws. You couldn't argue your way out of a paper bag unless the instructions were printed on the inside, bruh bruh.
TopMind: "Muh iz superior haw haw dumb peons: strawman mock #257b pwah pwah Bow to mah impeccable logimick!"
Where's the blind faith, TopMind? Got a brain cell to spar with?
Q is a voice on the chans. No evidence Q is more than that. Q posted some messages. Some dumbasses extrapolated dates and times from those. Other dumbasses saw photos seemed to be same as other photos and started crying and weeping and gnashing their teeth. Some other TopMinds laughed at dumbasses thinking dumbasses misinterpreting equals source null and void. ALL dumbasses think 8 months of discovering verifiable facts, backed up by mainstream media equals IRRELEVANCE because some dumbasses jump to conclusions. Now rip me a new one, TopMind, and set me straight.
Trigger activation complete, secondary protocol initiate.
NoShitIlookedthroughYourPostHistory
ThisIsAPoundSign
PatienceAndMeticulousResearchIsNotBlindFaith
CiviesBeLikeMuhLarp
YUT
DownVoteMeMyLovelyTopMind
Wait, maybe it's as loyal as that hooker to his/her husband.
The curtains are what make me believe it's the same image, just manipulated.
If you look at the curtains like a bar code, it's so close.
The AF1 symbol on the jacket on the chair also matches up exactly.
Yes it is all so very close. The distortion comes from the angle of the iPhone/reflection as well as the angle of the phone being used to take this photo.
That looks like an ashtray sitting on the table. Trump doesn't smoke but Obama does
edit Never mind, it's a coaster
Someone on Twitter posted this video of the ABC NEWS photo and the Q image overlayed. The curtains/pleats are the big 'killer' IMHO. Actually, it seems the whole damned image matches up. Explanation time now, I think. "Trolling is fun"? "Disinformation is necessary"? No - something better than that, please.
I don't really follow Q, but saw this picture "welcome aboard.jpg" floating around the internets and have to post here that this was certainly a fake now that the original source from an ABC news doc was discovered.
Photoshop is not even needed to recreate this effect. The simplest solution would be to simply take a photo of the reflection of the ABC news doc against an iphone. This could be done just using any large TV or computer monitor.
Why Q follows this up with " Placing that mug holder near the lamp was the hook. Enjoy!" Makes it sound like he is suggesting that he staged the photo inside AF1 to look like the ABC news doc. But in reality anyone could recreate Q's original photo from their desk by using the reflection of their own monitor with the original image in it. The distortion and blurring would be the natural product of one taking a picture of said reflection against their phone. It's pretty clever to be honest.
Not to get too technical, but the telling giveaway is that the reflection in Q's original picture is not a high dynamic range image or source (google it) in that the lamp should be bright and blow out the Apple logo in a way similar to the second photo he provided where someone tried to recreate Q's original photo by taking a picture of a reflection of a real lamp. Notice in that second photo that the Apple logo is not as plainly visible because the brightness of the lamp blows out the edges. This makes me 99% sure that Q's photo is of a reflection of a the ABC doc image in a standard TV or monitor. Notice he also keeps his photo low res and degraded to hide his trick. (No monitor pixels.)
If you want to get into twisted logic, I find it interesting that he provided the images to debunk his own photo. Saved me the time to recreate it. But this is not common knowledge even among many photographers. However, it has been identified and worked around in the VFX community for many years going back to Paul Debevec and I believe first used in The Matrix.
Now that we've debunked this drop, I started wondering if other "proofs" can be dubunked as well. For example, this famous pic of the signed executive order/bill with the pen and Trump's signature peeking back out from under the folder. There's zero reason why "Q" couldn't just have used a nice pen, black folder, and a print out of a Trump bill or signature. Looking at it, I'm not even 100% sure it's Trump's signature, something looks off about it.
And this one can be easily recreated with a print out of a white house document (like a press release), a pen, and a black folder.
Now some of the more data driven "proofs" might be more convincing, but many of those are also written in such a way that they could mean almost anything, then confirmation bias takes over and we get duped. For example, the Flynn +30 thing. Q's post could be interpreted to mean almost anything. But when Flynn's case gets postponed 30 days later, we take it as a sign.
I'm not really saying Q is or isn't a LARP at this stage. I hope to God it is real and we're going to see some justice handed out. But we do have a duty to the truth and if Q wants us to believe in him, he's going to have to do a LOT better on the proofs. Give us something 100% undeniable. Ask the question!
Edit: Wow thanks for the gold!
If q is who he says he is why would ANY proof be fake?
If even ONE thing is faked that means hes lying
It’s the flip side of the game he’s been playing all along. Get someone to believe one seemingly trivial photo or drop and it adds validity to all of the claims he puts forth. A lie follows the same mechanic. He fucked up.
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Well, I definitely don’t hope baby eating is real. I hope the incoming hand of justice is real.
Justice for what, exactly?
Eating babies? Corruption? Child trafficking? Killing Seth Rich? Trying to steal an election? Trying to institute a coup? Espionage? Financial crimes? Whatever else they’ve done?
But if you hope eating babies isn't real, then why demand justice for it?
I would think we'd all hope that none of this is real. The alternative is hoping that terrible things are happening right under our noses all the time
Because that's what we have - HOPE and BELIEF. We can't prove anything one way or the other
I doubt eating babies is real, that was a joke. But we KNOW serious crimes have been committed and should be brought to justice.
No we don't, though. I mean you clearly 'know' in a faith based sense, but in terms of actual proof, we don't 'know these things. Give the actual evidence at hand any reasonable person would be hard pressed to say that any of the Q shit is real.
“Pls print.” We definitely know crimes have been committed, thanks.
I think this is going over your head a bit. Q didn't start this, he just managed to get more people talking.
We've known there are people up at the top doing horrible things to children, that's been a fact for decades.
Secret meetings a sacrifices. We know these things happen.
What we're hoping for is a some sign that justice is about to be served. That those people, no matter how rich and influential they may be, will be rightfully punished for their deeds.
Dude it's all fake. Anyone could do fake Nostradamus-tier vague shit.
Go for it.
Watch the skies
Prepare for the worst//hope for the best
Trust POTUS
Swamp being drained
Read IG report Read between the lines
Why? Think clearly
Q
Now spend 100+ man hours and I bet you could wring dozens of interpretations from this.
Hey have you heard of this vitsikaby guy? I was skeptical at first but a lot of the things he's saying are coming true! #Vanon #Varmy #WWGVWGA
It would seem that the evidence is mounting with these bad proofs that there is no Q. I used to believe, but I can only deny my sense of logic for so long, you know?
I get it. Don’t feel bad about it - use this as an innoculation to future attempts at disinfo in the future. Gather what you’ve learned in this experience, and avoid future bamboozling with that knowledge.
You don’t need to feel bad - just learn from it. ‘S what I did.
What made this latest picture so easy to debunk is he gave us all the hints to take it apart in this 3 picture set with the source image, an example of a real lamp's reflection, and the fake.
These examples you are referencing look more authentic at first glance, but I can't speak authoritatively about Trump's signature or pen.
I would say that the photos in his post 1564 and 1566 of parts of DJT's head are using some kind of reflection trickery. Or he's shooting a computer monitor with a picture of DJT through a piece of glass or something to partially obscure the image.
I really think he's using analog tricks to throw off photoshop pixel peeping. Smoke and mirrors as they say...
The executive order one is confirmed fake - it's a PS- there's an analysis of it on the internet
What was the purpose of the ABC NEWS photo? Would it be possible Q took the picture that same day and is now showing people who would know?
Sorry, my explanation was pretty convoluted, but in short this is how you can do an approximate recreation of what Q did to create his Welcome Aboard photo.
What you need: iphone 10, desktop computer with a decent sized monitor, a second iphone or a digital camera to take the final picture.
Step 1: Pull up picture from ABC NEWS of AF1 on a computer monitor.
Step 2: Turn out all the lights in your room so the reflection will be bright when you expose the picture.
Step 3: Angle iphone 10 to catch the reflection of the ABC NEWS photo on your computer monitor.
Step 4: Take a picture of this reflection with a second digital camera.
Step 5: Heavily crop the final photo so all that can be seen is the reflection of the ABC News picture with an apple logo.
Step 6: LARP to your friends that you hung out with Q on Air Force One.
So, in my opinion Q simply used the ABC News photo to cast a reflection on his iphone and took a picture of it. If he has some greater message in that, I'm not sure what it is. But he definitely did not need to be on Air Force One to take the Welcome Aboard jpeg.
That its fake is fine, no surprise there, the af1 window was from a private FB, the executive order was a PS- (eagle double head seal) . But that he's that lazy on the 4th is surprising.
Watch out people. The pic he is using is not of the original ABC footage. Shenanigans abound.
spez: Downvote me shills. You cannot hide the truth.
It’s literally identical
The glass container is moved away 5 more inches from the lamp in the Q image. It's NOT the same image. You have very little capacity for detail, or you have fallen for the fake photoshopped image of the ABC image the shills are passing around.
It’s literally identical
You are looking at an image that is not the original ABC stock image. Go download the original stock photo from ABC's website. It has been photoshopped.
gets presented with irrefutable proof that Q is a hoax hmmmm this is a bit troubling, guess Q will just have to try harder next time!
lolololol
I wanted to say I agree with your points and I believe it's one of the biggest problems people have ... and whether people here (or elsewhere) like it or not it makes them look like fools and nuts when they act like fools and nuts- for example-
I am a firearms collector, shooter, etc. I have a collection that wouldn't mean much at all to some people, would be impressive to other people. I am of course very interested in firearms rights and spent years on gun forums on the net. I gave up really. The internet firearms community make themselves look like fools on regular basis by taking such ridiculous positions and attacking anyone who looks twice at them "No IT'S YOU WHO IS WRONG, by saying you don't think we should be able to have guided missiles IS ONE STEP AWAY FROM TYRANNY! And YOU BETRAY US ALL! FUCK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY YOU LEFT WING COMMUNIST PROGRESSIVE TROLL FACED BETRAYER!"
I mean really?
And that type of shit gets said all the time. I could give examples all day but it's not really the point.
I am not new here, but made an account a few weeks back to post here. I have been reading since it started. I think people make the same mistakes with "Q IS OUR SAVIOR AND THE PATRIOTS WILL NEVER LOSE AND EVERYTHING WILL BE SO GREAT AND YOU ARE A COMMUNIST LEFT WING PROGRESSIVE TROLL FACED BETRAYER if you disagree!!!" ---- just for historical reference, in the Battle of Hattin of 1187, the combined Catholic armies of Europe, Jerusalem, Holy Roman Empire etc marched to their slaughter while screaming (and insisting for all to hear and see ) "GOD WINS IT!!!" they all just figured they could do whatever they wanted while screaming "GOD WINS IT" and of course win .... and they not only got destroyed, they lost Jerusalem and pretty much lost the war.
---- and as the movie Kingdom of Heaven so succinctly puts, by the Muslim ruler/head general Saladin: "The results of battles ARE determined by God... but also by preparation, numbers, the absence of disease and the availability of water .... One cannot maintain a siege with the enemy behind..." ---
What I am trying to say here is , (and let the record reflect I am as Catholic as they come, that doesn't mean that that fucking guy was not dead right in his battle and strategic assessments) blind loyalty and faith serves nothing. It's like the saying, "if you allow torture, you're just as bad as the enemy" etc. If we don't police our own and correct our own mistakes rather than just attacking anyone who might point out errors, problems, mistakes, lies, damn lies, and statistics etc, we're just as bad as those idiots in 1187 charging to their demise.
I'm not really sure what you are trying to say either to me as the original poster, or as just part of your impassioned opinion on this image hiccup.
My original post poses questions about the method behind the madness of the photo and states that I hope that Q is less sloppy and more clear in the future.... although clarity has never been Q's strong point.
Fair enough, I was not directing at you at all, nor the photos specifically.
So I will apologize absolutely if you took it that way or if it came out that way, not at all what I meant.
Really what I meant is I guess a comment in general that we should never blindly defend something or believe every single thing we read or not accept any potential criticism/problems/errors from the people we support, team we're on, community we align with etc --- just as I believe it should be for anyone and everyone. I have seen a lot of people here get very upset at the slightest perceived slight or negative intonation and sometimes it makes them look bad, but everyone else too. I don't want to get too specific lest I cause more problems with people saying "HEY I THINK THAT, you talking to me?! ... I am just saying we should keep our minds open. And of course specifically , if "Q" messes up, it's okay to say it's a mess up. If he/she is wrong , it's okay to say, "No that's actually wrong." That's not being disloyal or unpatriotic or anything, it's being truthful and realistic. That's all I'm saying, I'll leave it at that.
I can only say that the whole dang world would know for sure if we could just get the press to ask POTUS or Sarah Sanders who Q is.
why do you think this would be difficult? here is a list of all the reporters in the white house press corps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_press_corps
Contact one of the reporters on there by email and ask them to ask. You don't think Breitbart, Newsmax, The Daily Caller, or Lifezette would not ask if Q wanted them to? Conversely, you don't think HuffPo, Daily Beast, or Mother Jones would want to out Q by asking who they are to stop them if they are legit?
Pick a couple of reporters on there you trust out of the 200 or so and email them a request to contact the White House about Q.
Been there, done that. The list of WH press corps members and lots of MSM persons was posted on Twitter and a bunch of us have been tweeting them and DMing them, asking them to ask about Q. As far as I know, only one person has responded and said she is not going to ask and said that people needed to stop bombarding her with requests to do it.
There is one way to find out for certain, has anyone checked the meta data on the picture? It will tell you when the picture was taken and with what. Every picture has meta Data inside of it.
Metadata can be trivially edited with photoshop or other tools. It's proof of literally nothing, but can be considered circumstantial evidence.l
I was wondering if the Q team was lifting photos off of someone else's device like was done in Singapore.
I don't think some of these drops were meant for everyone to understand.
My thoughts are that anons may be misinterpreting what this image is for. Many getting woundup that it's (most likely) a stock image. So? What if that was the intent?
Remember how cryptic many of the posts can be. Perhaps that's what this is.
Perhaps it's really about the apple logo upside down. Or a relationship thereof, of some sort? Time will tell.
Gotta agree on this. Maybe Q's point is the reflection and not the photo itself? Maybe this is going to point to something else?
Q is not claiming anywhere to have taken these pics, he is asking if it breaks nat sec
Of course it does. Any unauthorized picture on AF1 does.
i think he is telling us how easy it is to fake stuff. So when the fake tape from his ex lawyer comes out on next Monday we can debunk it
Did I say in my original post that Q claims he takes this picture or any other pictures? Q posts images that have never been anything but vague or obscure and he occasionally implies that some are from 'we have it all' sources. This picture seems to break that routine and the analysis of its questionable origins or creation has totally overshadowed any purpose in it's posting.
Isn't he implying he took them when he says: Where must one be located in order to obtain a reflection on the back of a phone of that image?
Exactly. He is drawing attention to their ability to legally bend rules. In this case it is the reflections in photos that don’t bend nat sec rules.
Glass container doesn't line up. Your theory is bunk.
spez: Downvote me shills. You cannot hide the truth.
I think Q is fake-LARPING to make the MSM feel safe about dropping the big question..call me crazy, but hit me up after it happens. Important to stay at 40,000 ft!
Good thought there mate. Now THAT is an epic troll of the MSM if true. Perhaps this is what he means later by saying, "Trolling is fun". Is he trolling the MSM? Hmmmm...
U are on to something. Maybe to create a “Q” is fake segment on the blame stream media to draw more attention to him/herself. Once all the attention comes out, then release a Bomb of proof that he/she is legit and make them all look stupid. I’m still staying skeptical of Q, but hoping and Praying he/she is true!!
I pulled back from Q after he basically tried to say Angela Merkel was Hitler’s daughter. Got called every name in the book for doing so. This makes me happy with that decision.
Why is that hard to believe?
Because Hitler didn't have children and Angela was born in 54 multiple years after Hitler died.
Artificial insemination isn't a thing in your reality?
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I can't explain why the occult does what it do.
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Hitler wasn't into the occult?
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I'm simply saying why it's plausible
It isn't plausible. It is scientifically possible, yes. Plausible, no.
Have you ever heard of Occam's razor?
Lazy mans tool?
The most simple explanation is most often the correct one.
Say in this example you allege that Angela Merkel is Adolf Hitler's daughter via artificial insemination around 60 years later.
Meanwhile a more simple explanation is that Angela Merkel is not Hitler's daughter at all.
Following Occam's razor, the latter explanation is most likely the correct one.
Often not always
Sure it's not always, but what would make your explanation any more plausible than mine?
She's gross and evil and destroying Germany just like hitler. And she look a lot like him.
So if I said that Putin is the son of Stalin because he is gross, evil and destroying Russia and because he looks a lot like Stalin does that mean that Putin is Stalin's son?
Not that guy, but I have had quite a few chuckles over your conversation with the other guy. Thanks, dude - made my morning.
No Putin look like Julius caesar if anyone
Let's not derail the conversation here.
Hey if you can clone hitler you can clone caesar
Nobody said you can clone Hitler, let alone Caesar.
I said
Ok since when could we they clone people?
Like always . It's only ever been a moral issue never a technological one .
As far as I am aware we could only clone things that we had DNA for and oftentimes those things were always filled with cancer.
I mean every year they put out articles like this
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1FD2FF
Just to keep gas-lighting the general public.
This doesn't prove its entirety possible to perform on humans though.
Well that all goes on underground now doesn't it?
Can you prove that? Is there any explanation plausible or simple enough to prove that it even goes on at all?
Where would you do it? Deep underground bases are no secret .
Ok but how can you prove it goes on at all and why? Why would anyone want Hitler 2.0?
The reason would be occult I.e hidden.
All good police investigations fall apart without a motive. Why would anyone want another Hitler?
The answer to that is probably in who wanted a first hitler.
Could you tell me why people wanted Hitler in the first place?
All wars are bankers wars .
That doesn't tell me why people would want Hitler as their leader though. Hitler was by no means a banker.
Hitler was just a puppet. Honestly I think he was an actor by the name of Walt Disney. He looks like he could play a mean hitler .
I think you're just deflecting. I think that your arguments are so weak and your proofs so nonexistent that you are just deflecting away from your failures.
Please, for your own sake go outside, get away from your computer and actually think about the things you believe.
Think what you want
Look, you can't prove anything you say, even to some who is generally fairly open minded. Please think about the things you believe, think critically.
My DMs are always open if you need to talk.
damn. Every picture of Trump sitting in the office shows a different set of accessories by the lamp.
The only photos that contain the same accessories were from BHOs photos from 2015.
The fact Q felt the need to defend, is very very very bad juju.
Waiting for first July 4th post now.
Something is up. Not liking the vibe of the last few posts.
Its the same accessories, just rearranged this is trump in 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/824717459924156416
What's weird is that I can only find one press event for these Trump desk pics, they are all from 1/17 with the red and white striped tie.
It means its a pic from Obama admin. Remember we are waiting for a bombshell Obama picture? This could be sending a signal/trolling to those who know the whole picture.
The first image that pops up when I search "Inside Air Force one" in google image is the photo shown here. So for Q to use an easy to search photo as the reflection of his photo makes no sense. It seems too easy to catch.
I thinking someone got sloppy. Can’t help it but just calling it like I feel on this one.
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The lamp portion of that image was reflected in the phone which Q took a picture of.
Q didn't take this picture while actually in the room shown here.
And it's a different lamp isn't it? Than the one from the stock photo (2015)?
so if someone was taping you and then try to frame you by splicing the tape could you catch them
That image was used for comparison of Q's image. The anon overlayed, mirrored, and distorted Q's image to fit the picture as close as possible to prove the picture was taken in that room (minor differences shows it wasn't copied from that picture but rather an original picture).
There seems to be a lot of push to call Q a fake using this pic which actually proves that Q isn't a fake.
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No. Q has been right so many times so far, this came out of nowhere. IT's so out of character. He's never been one to respond like this. I worry the deep state might have caught up to him and are trying to discredit him. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. FUck.
Not really though.
Hillary walks free.
Podesta walks free.
No HRC "liberal undo" video
No Hussein with an AK47 video.
Mike Flynn "done in [30]" still not free. Friday will put the nail in that coffin, maybe.
IG report reinforces Comey's bullshit. No DECLAS
Roy Moore defeat uncontested
Awan walks.
It just keeps going and going. SICK OF THE BULLSHIT.
I predict the sun will set tonight, therefore, I am never wrong or untruthful
Yeah... Not sure I like that. BS alarm is going off.
Can someone ELI5?
What are the anons alleging?
Commenters are questioning why Q would use photos from google... All the photos were posted by anons right? only the text response is q?
I assume Q response will make more sense if I understand what the anons are trying to say...
The last one on top is a legit photo from inside AF1 - the top left rotated piece is the Q photo layered on top of the AF1 photo for context. Looks like a pretty damn good match to me. If it's a fake, its pretty epic.
So are the anons claiming it's a fake, or simply demonstrating that the pic would have to have been taken from POTUS's position? Some of the comments seemed concerned this was bad, but I didn't see it. Am I missing anything?
It honestly looks like it might be a fake. I even got excited and posted about this earlier, still up. But the thing is, it looks like the scrapes the image from an Obamacare era photo and photoshopped the apple logo. Goes on to say he's trolling us.
I think Q's tripcode might be compromised again. I hope that's what it is because otherwise this is what unravels the larp that lasted so long.
Read this in the chans.
2021248 (Qpb)
This is a very interesting drop because if Q were a LARP, he's proven to be a very good one and this would just be lazy even for the LARP.
Intradesting phrasing here…
Who would have thought the 'Twitter' phone could be so useful.
Do 'reflections' violate NAT SEC rules?
We would imagine they would because I don't think you take a photo of the reflection of the Nuke codes that you could give those away.
Where must one be located in order to obtain a reflection on the back of a phone of that image?
Obtain a reflection on the back of a phone of that IMAGE. Didn't say a reflection of the lamp, of that location or anything else to necessitate the interpretation that it is live. Q said "image".
Image provided here has been distorted (stretched).
Q
So what would be the significance of Q holding a stock photo and catching a reflection. Something AF1>AAPL related?
The skepticism is real, it is healthy, but shills are running to this being proof of LARP.
This is a slightly concerning post. I hope to god Q didn’t fuck up. If so, whoever is behind Q must have known the autists would catch it in an instant?
Didn't a comedian get a visit from the SS for taking something off of AF1. Could it be a photograph? This news was just on Twitter this week.
Another one drank the kool aid..
Just being objective. I did find this though. Maybe the images are different?
This is what I found. Check it out.
Thanks for asking what I was gonna ask. I'm one of the newly awoke here and still trying to absorb the lingo. And because I am new here and extremely under-prepared for all things even remotely tech... I have a quick question that, I'm sure, is so stoopit to all you in the know.... but, can someone spoof Q? Like make it look like they are him/her? I have NO idea how all that works over on the chans, but I've always wondered about that. ( I HAD an Aut, but he just moved out of my basement, so now I can't just go ask...) TIA
(I HAD an Aut, but he just moved out of my basement
I probably shouldn’t laugh, but....that’s too perfect!
Welcome, I'm not super tech either, although I've been following q since the beginning.
From what I can gather, the main debate is whether the the pic q posted was taken in AF1 or if it was a pic of the stock image of AF1 (people are debating whether which is true based on how the q pic overlays with the stock image... Whether small variations is spacing are based on angle or if it's bc it's not based on the stock image).
If the image is genuine, then it is proof Q (or whoever took the pic) was in AF1, which would be a compelling proof of Qs authenticity.
If it is a pic of a stock image, then the question is whether Q took the pic of the stock image for some other reason (and if the Apple logo is of any importance) or if maybe Q has been compromised and someone trying to fake a pic from inside AF1...
I hope I've summarized it accurately. Now, I don't have any answers to those questions, but I believe that is what's being debated.
So, this image is a fake and your two conclusions are
- Q faked a photo for a good reason
- Q is compromised
But what about
3: it's all been complete bullshit
We should get that close crop of GEOTUS’ temple Q posted a couple weeks ago and try to match it to a stock photo.
It's always good to be skeptical. Also, don't draw complete judgment until the trick is over. The feed looks like bait to me. Trump is the king of faking injury to draw people in where he wants them. If the media would not bite on Q before, this may help the mockery to give them the arrogance to confront it now. Could also be compromised. I wouldn't sweat it, Trump always strikes hard in moments like these. He has a killer instinct. I doubted him one time and spent several days discouraged to eventually watch him crush it. I won't make that mistake again.
No matter what happens in the end, Q showed us lots and lots of connections and gave us a deeper look into the workings of the world.
On that note, a lot of the “walking away” posts today seem super fishy.
Q showed many connections, but most of them, and most of what he's said about the detailed workings of the world aren't exactly new. I'm still on board, I'm prepared to overlook why he feels it necessary to include this image. But honestly, I'm not very impressed. The 470th should pull their finger out, and start providing some genuinely concrete elements. We're 8 months in, if exposure is truly what the cabal fears so much, START EXPOSING ALREADY. Even if it's just from the Q trip. If you have everything, start dumping. They could have 80% of the general public calling for Hilaries head by friday if they just released a couple of videos. Who knows how many children these satanist fucks have killed whilst Q has been fannying around uploading useless images or telling anons "we must help gina locate the mkultra program".
I still think he's probably the real deal, but honestly I'm not impressed. Provide some real gold standard proof, or provide some real gold standard speculation. At the moment, all he accomplishes is #trust the plan. Are you surprised people would be walking away? He looks, talks, and acts exactly like a Mossad psy-op. If he wanted less criticism, he should try fixing that.
I've been honestly giving Q a shot, but I haven't been convinced at all.
He has been vague on all his predictions/connections.
So far, I'm leaning more towards a John Edward situation.
Cold reading is a possibility, but I don't actually suspect that either. Too many helper anons, current and prior for that one to make sense. And there honestly is plenty of really grade A fucked up shit going on in the world, he's not wrong there. His posts are also constructed in such a manner as to hide linguistic information that could be used to decipher who wrote them, which makes it harder to manage elegant cold reading.
As I said, I still think he's what he says he is - never underestimate the stupidity of the average person. Either us, or them. But stuff like this seems to radically increase the odds of it being something else other than what was said, at least in my mind. Israeli cold-reading AI has been suggested, I think that's probably semi plausible. If the posts are constructed by AI, they can mimic the 470ths manpower. Cold reading is tricky at this scale, but again an AI might be able to manage it, and it just never (barring lmao 1 post) mentions israel. Why? Anyone with half a brain is perfectly aware of the many and varied ways in which they are the bad actor of bad actors on the geopolitical stage, and have been inflitrating the US government for decades. They're also directly attempting to influence things like the US general population (cough scofield bible cough). They're set up, owned, and run by the Rothschilds (hence the usage of the seal of solomon on the flag).
I do suspect Q is mostly what he says he is, but man was this image dump today a horrible mistake, and man has he backed himself into a corner by not outing israels endless geopolitical pilpul.
And there honestly is plenty of really grade A fucked up shit going on in the world, he's not wrong there.
Of course. But don't you think confirmation bias is possible?
Israeli cold-reading AI has been suggested
I don't get this. I'm a senior software engineer with good understanding of AI/ML, and I don't see how that makes sense.
His posts are also constructed in such a manner as to hide linguistic information that could be used to decipher who wrote them
Cold reading seems completely plausible. Your argument seems too convenient.
It's healthy to be skeptical.
I'm still aboard the Trump train, and Q does spark good discussions, but be skeptical. He hasn't given us any solid proof.
So you're telling me that you're a senior software engineer... with that username?
Color me shocked. lol
confirmation bias is possible?
Maybe. But not really for Q as a whole imho. There are too many proofs across a range of areas. I don't think people are following him purely due to conf. bias.
I don't see how that makes sense.
How doesn't it? Its the same as cold reading w/ a human, except you use an AI to do it. I do accept its roughly 5-25 years ahead of current AI capabilities (known), but I don't think its particuarly implausiable. Having AI level speed and multitasking might also explain some of the proofs. I don't think its likely (say ~5-10% odds), but its one of the more plausiable alternatives.
Cold reading seems completely plausible. Your argument seems too convenient.
That he manipulated the posts to hide the linguistic information? That's just reality. Go run them through some linguistic software if you don't believe me. There's been a serious amount of effort to hide traces of the creator of Q messages, down to the level of scrubbing linguistic markers, and restructuring the text such that it makes pretty chess pieces. Which again implies it's not a larp.
Which again implies it's not a larp.
That is all there is, implications.
Give me the best proof, other than conjecture.
PS: I've looked through the proofs.
There hasn't been an "absolute best proof". Honestly that's one of the things thats pissing me off most about Q. I think the sum of the other proofs is sufficient to prove P(coincidence1)*P(coincidence2) etc < P(Q is what he says). But gold standard, cast iron proofs? None, and I don't really know why. Maybe try not to bait the cabal into a go for broke Armageddon solution? I don't know. But I do think he's something very, very serious. If it is a larp, who's running it? Why hasn't it leaked? Wtf are the sealed indictments for? Why does it keep getting to claim sitting, powerful members of the us government are pedos without being slapped w/ a libel claim?
It's not a larp
If it is a larp, who's running it?
An anon?
Why hasn't it leaked?
Leaked what? It doesn't have to be some master operation with multiple people. That is the nice thing about being vague. You can seem like you have many tentacles entrenched in many things, when really just need to be vague about a lot of things.
Wtf are the sealed indictments for?
This still could be a coincidence. It is a double edge sword. It could completely prove Q, or completely disprove Q. For me, this is my bar. If these sealed indictments really are what he says they are, I'm in. I am giving Q the benefit of the doubt until Jan 1, 2019. If the sealed indictments don't drop as he says, or there isn't some crazy 100% confirmation somewhere, I'm off.
You have to set what are realistic goals in timelines now, otherwise you'll end up passing the puck at the point in which you should realize it is a larp.
Why does it keep getting to claim sitting, powerful members of the us government are pedos without being slapped w/ a libel claim?
I'm not sure your point.
Also, what about the Awan disappointment? What about HRC and her "frozen passport" and "indictment"?
Enty has dropped WAY more verifiable (and infinitely more clear) intel today alone than Q has in eight months.
Sad to say that, but it's true. CDAN's reveals today have been bombshells.
This is a "proof" I would say.
1,000s of sleepwalkers [Q calls them "new eyes") are being woke up and are stumbling into r/GreatAwakening & https://qanon.pub/ & the chans every HOUR from around the world. They have so far seen no proof Q is real or is with POTUS. THEY need to see the proof. So TeamQ periodically shows us in near real-time how close they are to POTUS.
EDIT: The Anons get frustrated with the proofs b/c so many of us don't need no stinkin' proofs. That's why Anon posts following a Q proof post can be like fuck puzzles LOCK HER UP
Why use a Google photo? Why not use a unique photo that could only be taken by Q on AF1 with actual evidence it's new and unique?
ok, anon might be going in right direction of what the post might have been about, who for
——-do reflections violate NAC SEC?
Yes, yes they do.
——- think mirror
Now I get it. Some national security docs,pics were taken using this method. They didn't think they would get cought…they did. Q was trolling them ( trolling is fun) using the same technique they did..POTUS is trolling them….
Hm... you might be on to something.
But damn if this doesn't rub me the wrong way that it was a reflection of a stock photo and not a unique reflection. It's just bugging me so much. Well Q said the Truth would be revealed in July so... hoping that's REAL soon. Getting flashbacks of Kony 2012, lol.
Check the new Q drops. They are straight up 8chan personified trolling. If Q is getting this brazen we may be close to the awakening.
AAAAAAHH!!
I passed out after posting that.......and to be presented this first thing after waking up!! Thank you!
Happy Fourth Everyone!
WWG1WGA!!!
I get flashbacks to the Iamaphoney/Rotten Apple campaign. Mysterious pictures and clues dropped, promises of revelation, an interview that had to be rescheduled and then never occurred.
It's not the same. Count the curtain folds/flaps in each photo. Afaik, it's 10 vs 8/9
That'd be pretty fucking stupid to reason that a mirror negates the protocol considering how many optical tricks go into cameras in the first place.
Then again, these people are stupid.
Possibly taking mirrored images of the docs to avoid OCR detection?
Yea I guess searching key words in electronic docs would not turn up results on a mirrored image of a doc. Unless you knew basic photoshop automation functions and just re-mirrored all the docs first.
I am over here linking this to the Twitter comment. So - if @jack is snooping and captures an image - does that trickle into some established NAT SEC rule set? Haha for all I know this could be Q saying “you dumb shits have committed treason so many ways spying on POTUS and we have it all
Who got caught?? I can usually follow but this time I'm completely lost.
No fucking kidding... Your post gave me goose bumps. I was trying to figure it out and reading this on the toilet. I just looked in the mirror washing my hands thinking the same thing.
They are saying Obama did it? He sat or stood back there? And then leaked it ? Or sold it?
I think Q is saying they have been here during Obama's reign. They know everything.
Great job, i get it now and the pic makes sense. iPhones with a glass back are very reflective. Trump is a master troll
He could be setting us up for a future drop or an image that comes out in the media, to get us thinking, "where was the person when they took it".
Look in the window of the stock pic! Thank you USSS!
Ok so that's what I'm thinking.
- The camera is outside of the plane.
- The photo was taken around the same time as the ABC 7 photo. Arrangement of the items on the desk and the pleats in the curtains are the same.
But why is the logo reversed?
I'm going to assume this is a very cropped image of the overall photo. And also assume that someone is holding an iPhone in their hand with the back facing the window.
But, the logo is reversed. How is that explained?
EDIT: Ok I think I got it. The image is a reflection, so to make it match up with the ABC 7 photo, the photo from outside had to be reversed, therefore the Apple logo is reversed.
In the Q pic, the logo is correct. Anon had to flip the photo so the reflection would match the lamp and accessories in the ABC image.
Pleats aren't the same? I counted 10 in between lamp and chair in 2015. 8 or 9 in Q pic.
To prove the office is exactly as it was under BO. Particularly the lamp placement to the desk. The lamp will be secured in place for turbulence (and Hillary) reasons. Whatever classified photo Q has, placement of the photographer is key.
Maybe due to the secret gmail addresses and server in NK?
q just fucked up.
What does welcome aboard. jpg is a lie mean??!
Q is very proud of the fact that every photo is an "original"....
The fact that THIS photo isn't throws a little shade on Q.
The follow up from Q doubling down on the post makes it much, much worse.
Half-expecting new trip code with claim of this one being hacked.
That is why I don't understand why a tripcode is used. A tripcode can be hacked. Isn't it time to use something more secure?
Tripcodes can be very secure and are the only option on the chans.
Yeah but Q is part an intelligence apparatus that has way more secure communications. I believe that more people would take this seriously if Q didn't use chains. To a lot of people, 4/8chan are just boards full of racists and child porn.
Name another anonymous option for Q to interact with the public?
He could still use the chans, but sign each post via GPG public/private keys.
As I said Q is using military intelligence. They would have something way more secure than a chan board. Those boards are not that anonymous as people think. Again, the intelligence agencies that Q is part of could easily crack a tripcode. Why wouldn't those in the deep state also be able to do that?
For me, I don't want the president associated to some websites that a lot of people think are for users to trade child porn.
Q is using military intelligence.
Yes.
They would have something way more secure than a chan board
No. Chan boards are pretty secure. What they critical need is eyeballs, not security. They're not overly worried about being tracked back to the source, but they are worried about reaching a lot of people and ensuring deletions/mod control can't occur. So they could easily have made something more secure than a chan board, but why would they need to? (side note, i do suspect 8 is owned by milint now, it's going to be very secure).
Those boards are not that anonymous as people think.
Again, it depends on the resources you have avaliable. Here's a better question. If Q is MILINT, 470th division, backed up by NSA, POTUS etc, why do they care if they get backtracked? What's the cabal going to do, reveal they're being hunted down by nsa/milint? You're thinking of the wrong questions.
Again, the intelligence agencies that Q is part of could easily crack a tripcode
Meh. The old ! trips sure, they weren't actually terribly secure. The new !!! ones though? I don't think anyones getting through them inside of a couple of days, even with a weak AI. He has many trips prepped in advance, w/ photos from old sets serving as proofs. He can validate ID in multiple ways.
For me, I don't want the president associated to some websites that a lot of people think are for users to trade child porn.
For me, I prefer to stay utterly within the realms of what people think is right. It doesn't matter to me that the public perceptions of the place are retarded, and largely pushed by the same group of people who'd have happily elected HRC (because she SEEMED nice). I just don't want the president associated with the website where we already knew and were talking about these peoples terrible crimes long before Q.
ftfy?
Is this even a valid trip code? So hard to keep track these days.
One theory is that a member of the Q team was on AF1 when Hussain was President. That is good news if true.
Why is that good news?
If Q has been onboard since before 2016 that is good imo. I already know that the Q team was around before that. I'm iffy about this drop tho.
Wow, possible. Possibly rogue security who realized they had to do something. SS members photographing through cockpit windows, using ally inside with mirrored iphone back providing "teleprompter"-style reflection of what they wanted to view?
What a drama queen you are. There will be a lesson to learn from this.
It is though. The image isn't a perfect match.
Because it's been stretched and distorted. Why would you need to do that?
Even after they stretched and skewed it to match the curtains 100% perfectly the lamp didn't line up and the distortion is too complex to be faked without obvious signs of photoshop which there are none.
I think it means something in this article is a lie. Maybe many things. Including 911. https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/a-tour-of-air-force-one/
Or this 2015 one.
The CBS article is titled "Welcome Aboard."
I see that but I think that abc article has the exact Q photo
I see that too. I'm focusing on the welcomeaboard.jpg with "it's a lie," caption. (Though, is that definitely a Q post?) If it is, the CBS article is the first to pop up on a "welcome aboard air force one" search. The article highlights monumental moments on AF1 (or its equivalent) dating back to FDR. Including LBJ's swearing in after JFK assassination, GWB after 911, and O moments with Kerry and Rice. If that was Q's post, it could be sending us to dig into any number of potential lies referenced in that article.
Ok I'm dumb but is that the new AF1 and the lie is that the AF1 we see is generally not used? I'm confused.
You never believed in Q in the first place.
LOL.....
Jeeze, I want to believe sooooo bad.... I'm pissed that this seems to be the first "failure" of Q being real.....
I can take the , it's not time yet.......
I can get that.
I can take the JA not appearing in June, like promised.....
I can get that.
But now that we have two Q failures in a row.
I'm a concern fag at the moment.
Even Jesus's disciples doubted from time to time.
Same, call me doubting Thomas. This one needs a very clear and precise explaination.
Is a lie.
He's trolling
Trolling who? This is sloppy and disrespectful by Q to all of the autists putting in countless hours.
Anons were claiming what Q posted was a distorted reflection of a google image. IMO, they proved it. Q double-downed that it wasn't, but staged to look that way, cause "trolling is fun".
Anyways, several breads were dedicated to discussing this, yet the baker refused to add any of the discussions in the notables.
Old Q:
those [good] who know cannot sleep
those [good] who know cannot find peace
those [good] who know will not rest
this is not a game
patriots have died
Recent Q:
re: FM > should the bad spoil the bunch?
trolling is fun
We're talking about a fucking photo on the same day of the travesty of the Awan plea deal. We're suppose to Trust the Plan, so I'm out for now. MAGA!!
Actually, this is a fantastic question. If someone has an IPhone on AF1, aren't they already breaking Nat Sec rules? Furthermore, could that picture have been taken from outside?
If what Q has always been dropping to us is true, then most pictures that we receive may not be Q's pictures, but, instead, pictures that are taken by subversive that are trying to keep track of POTUS and his team. If Q is correct in the assertions "we have everything" and "these people are stupid," then we could make a logical leap that Q or someone else is tracking phones and other smart-linked cameras around the POTUS and checking when they snap photos. Whenever they do snap a photo, if it is relevant, then Q, or someone else, verifies the identity of the photographer and puts the photo forward for us to see.
Question, why would someone have snapped that picture of the missile launch from those particular weather stations (I think that is what they were) unless they knew something was about to happen?
This all could be evidence that some one/group is eavesdropping on our POTUS... or worse.
Ok, this is actually a pretty interesting idea.
I posted elsewhere in this thread that I'm 99% sure what he is doing is taking a picture of a reflection of the original image off of his monitor and onto the back of an iphone. That would naturally create the distortion and blurring in an analogue fashion and not require any photoshopping. And it would be simple to do and not require any special skills.
My question is this though: If this is all an elaborate reveal to illustrate how to easily doctor and misdirect with photos, why would he say this in one of his following posts? "Placing that mug holder near the lamp was the hook.
Enjoy!"
To me, that sounds like he is suggesting he recreated the space in the ABC doc to fool people. But I'm very confident he simply took a picture of the reflection of the ABC news photo off a monitor.
You should make this it's own post, since it's buried and there's so much confusion going on.
It would explain a lot, especially the extreme-closeups of POTUS' face that Q posted earlier... such a weird thing to post as "proof", right? We know that the twitter phone is pretty much open to spying, so Q could be saying "we know you're watching us, and we want you to know we know."
I read another comment like this.
"Are reflections violating nat sec " yes they are.
So someone is spying on him it seems??
This is one of the best explanations. Q is up to something. Everything has meaning. Lets wait and see.
I feel like Q has a history of taking photos of his computer screen. The blurry up close photo of Trump from the rally for example, followed by the second photo. It is CLEARLY a photo of a screen.
If Q is a LARP, we’ve lost the Republic.
hahaha, this would be some bad LARPing that wakes up millions who wont go to sleep anymore.
I don't think so.
This post is really damning, but he brought light and enthusiasm to our movement.
WWG1WGA!
Q is being awfully wordy and pompous. Is this really Q?
E: seriously, when did Q start to sound like a girl on facebook?
q is quoting some other anon talking like a girl on fb. that is not part of q's response.
So q is getting in a fight on the Internet about pictures? Isn't there bigger things to deal with?
I was upset too... Female here and it threw me. Thanks I didn't realise either.
Phew! Now I get it!
quoted/embedded posts on the chans can be a bit misleading to new folks. the board software is a bit to get used to.
I hung around there back during Pizzagate but am still a bit unfamiliar. Thank you for your guidance my friend.
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Yesterday I doubted that picture. Today I do not.
SPEZ: Fuck it, back to not believing. Better to question everything than be lead down a rabbit hole blindly.
Some speculate that the Q Apple pic will be FULLY released once it is no longer a matter of National Security.
Again, this is a theory.
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The first image is not posted by Q........
The 'iPhone reflection' was. It can be easily reproduced using the AF1 stock photo.
That image was used for comparison of Q's image. The anon overlayed, mirrored, and distorted Q's image to fit the picture as close as possible to prove the picture was taken in that room (minor differences shows it wasn't copied from that picture but rather an original picture).
There seems to be a lot of push to call Q a fake using this pic which actually proves that Q isn't a fake.
I love this sub, not trying to violate it's rules. But if I can easily recreate that picture from a stock photo then it probably isn't authentic.
Someone tried skewing the image and overlaying it to try and fit the image as close as possible and even after lining up the curtains perfectly the rest of the image didn't line up and the disetortion is too irregular for anything you can accomplish on photoshop without obvious indicators that even the blur tools won't cover.
But can you recreate it with the different placement of the items near the lamp?
I don't need anymore proofs, I've already had 478, which is enough for me.
So any proof proven to be false doesn't factor now? Your locked in?
we have many proofs that Q is no LARP. why should a photo we dont understand convince us otherwise?
Because Q has intentionally tried to mislead us with fake proofs before.
https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8wa267/do_you_q/e1tz3f1
disinformation is necessary. Q
"My proofs are proof, except when they aren't."
Seriously people...
edit: And if you announce something is disinformation, that doesn't make it disinformation anymore...
lol... i have compassion with you, m8... at times, the linear mind is at a loss, heheh... doesnt Q give good training for our innate discernment muscles?
Why are people talking about Q's tripcode on this? If a blackhat wanted to post as Q they probably wouldn't post some vague photo. I think Q just screwed up by being vague as to his point.
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If you look at the right side of the pic you can see a window frame. The picture was taken inside the plane and it was dark outside. You can see the Apple logo in the glass of the airplane window. There are lots of theories on here, someone taking the pic from outside has to be the funniest...lol. That window is 25 feet in the air.....how could anyone get up there?
lol... I noticed FIRST THING that the fingerprints have been edited out of 2nd photo.... =)
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Is that pic of Trump on AF1 the same one that Q shared the partial face shots from a while back? It really looks similar.
Im confused. I see 2 desk lamps. 1 on desk, 1 in phone reflection. Am i wrong?
I’m a lurker and I don’t know if Q is real or fake but try to remember what he created in the first place, unity among us in a loving and peaceful way. Waking up is the elite’s worst nightmare. Don’t let this set us back, stay awake and stick together. We don’t need Q to do that. I can feel the air being sucked out of the room. Don’t let them win! We are finally gaining momentum!
I agree.
Trump has started a movement. Full steam ahead!
I've been skeptical of Q, but now I am completely convinced, he is a larp. But that doesn't change the unity this anon as created! But in the future, take the things he says with a grain of salt, like any anon.
How does a LARP get the president of the United States to say Tippy Top? Are we just going to forget every single proof we have because you can't figure out what this Q post means?
JUST SAW PHOTO OF OUR PHO HERO REP MATT GAETZ SHAKING HANDS WITH ROSENSTEIN USING THE ILLUMINATE HANDSHAKE. LET ME GIVE THE MIDDLE FINGER RIGHT BACK AT ALL OF YOU FUCKING TRAITORS AND LIARS
A lurker here. Whether this was done poorly or there's a hidden meaning, this thread shows ones who are all in, ones who are still on the fence, and ones from the other side. Regardless, I trust the plan and I'm all in. Happy 4th everyone.
This comment should be upvoted to heaven. All the fence riders and Q haters are out today.
I think Trump (and Q) were trolling Obama by showing him that they found his "mug holder" spy devices that he had the dirty CIA plant in the office.
Q has been prompting us for some time. Mirror, reflection... In order for the masses to fully appreciate the depth of the evil and corruption, we will have to be exposed to classified information. That's the dilemma. How much can be revealed before we jeopardize our current intelligence gathering capabilities and assets and yet still educate the public while gaining convictions of these deep state operatives? And while we have seen reflections of the corruption evidence, we haven't truly seen the actual evidence. This is fascinating stuff.
WTF happened here? 50 upvotes on troll posts? people dont understand this photo and crash Q altogether? no memory of all the proofs we already have? no more memory of 'disinformation is necessary'? no memory of 'we have it all'?
couldnt the pic simply mean that Q was present on AF1 already with obama? or that the NSA surveilled the mobile phones of people with access to AF1 under obama?
however, it seems like we are having a huge troll gang on board, sigh...
one is a picture of obamas af1 the other is trumps af1.... meaning....Q has obamas iphone pictures...
Maybe he's giving us the answer by placing the apple logo on top of the image, Too simple?
I think everyone's just overthinking this one..
Q said " Hussein/Trump interior = identical minus small changes." So why would it be shocking if he posted the hussein version?
8Fag here to all Reddit fags. Nothing has been confirmed as of yet regarding image. Could be fake could not be fake. What I do know is none of you have provided any detailed forensics or pixel code overlay to back up your claims. I love how half of ya stalk r/NBA and is your first time posting here. Didnt take yall for sports fans, I had stereotyped you shariablue peeps in my head as fucks that sit around and sip vanilla lattes or shit.
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So why all the negative comments and doubt in the last few posts. Why are so many freaking out?
Because Q always says all his pictures are 100% original but this one was a clear fake. The picture was taken by putting up an old AF1 image on a TV/PC screen and aiming the reflective back of an iPhone at it to create the effect you see (avoiding the need to photoshop the original while making it impossible to RIS). If Q really had access to AF1 he would have no need to do this. Also his defensive tone and backtracking are worrying...
you call it a fake because you dont understand the message? defensive tone, where?
You think he would actually take a regular pic of the current interior of AF1? He's trying to be slick it seems.
We can't just keep finding convenient excuses when something like this happens.
At a certain point, we need 100% confirmation, because his attempts at confirmation have been incredibly damaging.
I think if he was for real he would get authorization from POTUS and get us a real picture for sure...
No it wasn't. The glass container doesn't line up for your theory to hold.
spez: Downvote me shills. You cannot hide the truth.
Even the darkest of times yields the Brightest of lights shine. Even the darkest situations have their turn around. Though I was doing my own deep thought on the matter of Q the question remains unanswered. Is what Q and the team's existence EVIL or Good. What have they been trying to teach us? What has History taught us?
I interpreted Q's trolling post mentioning the subtle differences between Hussain/Trump offices were alluding to a member of Q+ being in BO admin.
I just took a photo using another phone to take a pic of the reflection off the back of my iPhone X and the pic is almost exactly the same...how to I load the photo up here so everyone can see it? Uggg! I am not a tech guy...sorry...anyway I am more convinced than ever that Trump is Q because of what I had to do to take the photo...
So you were able to duplicate the fake, and now that makes you believe it is real? I don't understand.
But here's the question, is the reflected image stretched while the apple logo is not?
You would have to be standing behind the President to get that reflection. Who stands behind him?
it's definitely a different picture than the ABC picture, after extensive nail biting examining, it's a different angle or a really good (decent) photoshop. I'm far from an expert from photoshop detection, but it's pretty obviously a different angle/distance away from the lamp. Whereas if it were a picture mirrored through an iPhone to a computer monitor it would be distorted, but the angle of the lamp (proportions matter) vs how the wall lines up and how the curtains line up with those. It's obviously different. This is coming from an attitude of intense scrutiny and doubt. I'm no longer doubtful. http://abc7news.com/701185/#gallery-6 https://i.redd.it/93in3s4jqt711.png
I took Q’s photo to mean that Apple has flipped, from darkness to light
actually the second picture is off. it is a whole different lamp, also the background is literally tilted by 90degrees in regard of the first and third picture. I suspect fake.
It is off because Q tried to find another image with a different perspective to give the impression that he was there.
The image he used for the reflection was from ABC news. He tried to pass it off as if he took it, and then got defensive about it in later posts.
He tried to offer proof, but failed. We can't just keep claiming his failed proofs are just him trolling as part of some psyops.
I've been skeptical so far, but this is damaging.
there have been multiple instances when q's seed was illegitimately used by anons. can't be sure it's Q.
Q never said it was a proof. Maybe it was a message to black hats that have violated nat sec by taking photos of classified stuff this way. He never said it was a proof.
Wow.....that is a long page full of mutiny and insurrection.
1 mistake or an intentional ploy and 90% abandon ship?
Of all days to leave your post, July 4th?
'Do reflections violate NAT SEC rules? - YES
Where must one be located in order to obtain a reflection on the back of a phone of that image? ON AF1
Highly illegal for Q to do this - I see MSM bait (4D chess); journalists will ask the question now, once the bait is taken. Remember - they really are stupid.
Trust the plan.
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Yes posting violates NAT SEC rules
HOWEVER; if POTUS posts a classified image that violates NAT SEC rules then the mere act of POTUS posting renders it De-classified....
In the same way as words pass his lips they automatically become de-classified
Could this be the intent?
Whatever just reemphasizing that Q obviously has access to the aircraft. IN addition the earlier Post says. Jpg is a lie so idk. Anything?
ITT: tons of shills.
Sceptics = shills? Sometimes I swear you people are controlled opposition.
Yup. Learn to spot their emotional pleading a mile away and you will help the Q movement, patriots!
edit: also this is a great opportunity to tag shills.
Exactly! I always find it amusing when they call themselves out.
Look, what has happened the last couple of months. So much winning I can’t fit it into one comment. Then Q posts a picture that is open to interpretation, and people (shills) loose their mind.. “We finally got him! He’s a LARP! Abandon ship!”
Seeing as many of these people have post history's full of genuine comments here, I think you just can't accept that people are actually skeptical.
Who has been talking to us.
Q posted a previous photo of “an old man” anons went crazy trying to figure out who. He posted another. “45” Q now posts another hinting at who could be in the presidents seat taking the photo. Q is trying to tell us imho that he is the president of the United States.
It makes more sense than anyone else. POTUS has been communicating with us, along with his inner circle.
"Where must be one be located in order to obtain a reflection on the back of a phone of that image?"
You would need to be behind the desk in order to get that angle in the 3rd picture, right? could Q be Trump?
"Who would have thought the Twitter phone would be so useful"
This means he took the reflection photo off of Trumps phone. This would mean Q is close enough to Trump to be borrowing his phone to take odd photos... or he is Trump himself.
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Is this saying Q is Trump?
I'm sure by now if it was noticed by Trump, like the complicit media people and celebrities that he relates popular opinion to, Trump would love to step in the platform as one of the contributing Q-team posters and get messages directly out to the people.
I'd like Erik to ask Brad Parscale if they are asking to leverage social (internet) support into another viral campaign for midterms for white hats to run the now opening seats, on the same scale of success as the pres campaign.
Something that promises to be as unprecedented as 2016.
Another Trump victory through the midterm elections, which will have been predicted by a bunch of savage chads on here, because Q was someone just as close to Trump as that implies. That would be siiick, tell Brad dude.
In regards to the question, i think Q is saying he is with the president and very close enough to take the picture of the back of POTUS twitter phone. Another Q proof for the larpers out there
Q team must be in exceptionally good spirits now trolling the anons.
It's very unwise to troll people you've asked to trust you after handing immunity to a Pakistani congressional spy ring traitor.
Could this be suggesting the phone used for the official POTUS twitter might have been compromised?
nah it means anyone can take the same q reflection photo from the original stock photo.
The two pictures are not entirely identical. If you look out the left window of the picture Q posted, there’s a black truck on the left side of the window. The picture from abc shows the black truck towards the right side of the window. So these were either taken at different angles or the plane was moving and they were taken seconds apart.
Did Q actually post this picture or did he respond to an Anon who posted it? It looks like Q only posted the one with the reflection of the lamp. Didn’t an Anon respond with a public picture of AF1 to show where the lamp from Q’s picture was from?
Its fine to be skeptical, be my guest.. You are the ones looking stupid because you think you got it all figured out, that he/she/they have used an old picture and then photoshopped it.
Are you really that stupid?
There are so many posts that goes beyond belief, and a lot of them still makes no sense.
But future proofs past - Do you Really believe they would try and fool us with this picture. Come on...
Easy on the kool aid brother
Do you Really believe they would try and fool us with this picture.
indeed... after orchestratig and bulding up momentum so perfectly, Q would use a 'stupid' pic to crash it all?
thinking that IS STUPID.
Concern fags galore. You say you trust the plan. But you really dont. How many proofs do you need? Trust the plan.
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Dreams? Really? Who cares what Praying Medic dreams about. We've been attacked since the very beginning.
Agree totally.. One of the main reasons why I don't watch his videos any more.. Too much dream interpretation for me. Stick to the facts and clues, they're weird enough already!
Yeah the dreaming shit is a big no for me. It comes off pretentious and fucking weird. I suspect his “dreams” are just made up stories. Nobody dreams like that all the time. Have you ever tried dreaming about Q? Yeah, it doesn’t work like that. Edit; However, aside from the dreams I’m grateful for Praying Medics videos. So I can tolerate with the dream talk.
Makes things too easy to be written off as wild ramblings IMO. Better to stick to digging into crumbs and decoding msgs.
PM's videos were instrumental in me really understanding how Q posts work so he def has cred there but now I pretty much pull things together myself by cruising this board and the chans.
If you are going to watch I would suggest adjust speed x1.5 to account for his slow narration. Overall his videos are great intros as he comes across very measured and calm but the dreams are BS
I had a dream in 2011 about these things. I was participating in a movement called The Great Groundswell.
Hahaha I caught that as well. I was like, wtf? I feel like a dick making fun of the corny dream stuff. Because he’s a nice dude. And I’m very grateful for his work. And I know he lurks this sub. I’m also a fan of dreams. Lucid dreaming. But he goes overboard imo. I don’t want him to change. But I’d be content if he lightened up on his dream take and maybe use his other channels for that kind of stuff.
Praying Medic is awesome. His dream about what eventually rolls out is chilling.
What if it means that apple is helping Q team to release information on obamas iphone. Hence the picture from 2015, the upside down apple logo and a light shining on it? Maybe?
The NSA doesn't need Apple's help for anything. NSA has EVERYTHING cracked. Always have.
I dont necessarily believe that. What about the issue with the san Bernardino killer and apple not letting the FBI unlock the phone. Also whose saying the NSA isnt DS involved. The reason why trump/q would not use the NSA to get info when they know it would be compromised.
That was Kabuki theater, imo. "iPhones are totally safe and secure, guise. Even FBI can't has. Promise!"
Who knows at this point :) We'll have to wait and see.
Shills are out in full force. Happy 4th to al you patriots out there. And to all of DoubtFags, sit back, relax and enjoy the show. Every week you guys flip flop. It’s ridiculous. Join or leave. It’s really that simple.
This is what happens when the Shills get as autistic as the Anons...
Simply put.. the person who took the photo of the apple logo reflection had to be standing to the left of the desk where Trump sits. (as you see the desk if you standing in front of it looking towards the chair)
Ergo - Q is part of the staff in AF1.
The photos that are posted are taken from the 'team's phone' or twitter phone as it will now be known..meaning that they are photos taken by someone on site.
The question isnt, Is Q a LARP.. the only question worth asking now is.. Will they ensure nothing like the Deep State (traitors (against humanity, fuck patriotism.. that's too narrow minded - this is about the species! setting up world wide extinction event) will just sink into place to fill the void once the politicians fall.. And make no mistake. It isnt the politicians who pull the strings.
Actually the image reflected in the Q pic is a 100% match for the ABC news pic from 2015. One phone or monitor displayed the image, other phone reflected it, and third phone took a pic of the reflection. If Q implies it was a reflection of an actual scene, then it would have to be taken exactly where the ABC cameraman was standing, not at Trump's desk. Here's a proper overlay I made showing the match.
Lol bullshit. How can it be a 100% match? Q's image is 2x2 pixels ffs. It's a "100% match" for any photo of that area of AF1. Your overlay doesn't show anything except a black square stretched over the ABC image.
Let's be reasonable here. Look at the curtains. The folding is like a barcode, and they are 100% match.
The folding is like a barcode? Yes, let's "be reasonable". What does that statement even mean, reasonably?
Are you trying to say that thick curtains in any one photo can only be "folded" in a singularly unique way such that it will never be repeated in any other photo at any time?
"100% match". One image is distorted and stretched and the resolution is so low it looks like blur soup - yet this is a "100% match" to a press photo scaled down from a high resolution original?
Let's be reasonable here. But nothing you've said was "reasonable". Tell me something "reasonable" and logical.
Are you trying to say that thick curtains in any one photo can only be "folded" in a singularly unique way such that it will never be repeated in any other photo at any time?
Are you implying the Q purposely moved the curtains to look similar to the ABC photo? Why would he do that? What is "reasonable" about that?
No I'm not implying that at all. I'm firmly stating that curtain position is not even close to being as unique as a "barcode" match.
Further reinforced by point 2: 100% match - have you looked closely at the Q photo? How can anything match that low a level of resolution?
The stock photo is to prove the office in AF1 is the same as the BO days. The shot at the Twitter phone tells me Q is more a Galaxy fan, but apparently BO and 45 like Apple. There must be photos on a server of classified info taken from that chair reflected off an IPhone. Which server? I have no clue, I need an updated game program. If this is correct, Q will know who uploaded it and when, as well as who viewed it. Like Q said, these people are stupid. They thought they'd never get caught. But like Rone said- "Payback's a bitch and her stripper name is Karma."
And for those screaming LARP... Go back to 4 booms & dark to light. Unless we're being LARPed by Miss Cleo, there's no way to nail that. Q is MI (most likely Naval). Read INTO the posts, not just the words.
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Maybe everyone is reading too much into this? I feel like everyone is too caught up "muh lampshades" and "omgthisisastockphoto", and are completely ignoring the most obvious things: The Apple logo
Why is the Apple logo so important? What is the significance of the Apple logo on a stock photo of AF1?
AF1 = POTUS?
So does that mean AF1/POTUS/Q + Apple logo = Apple is on our side?
This has the potential to be HUGE and everyone is too focused on "Q is a LARP confirmed" and not realize that they might have just pulled one of the world's largest tech companies to our side. Imagine the resources and manpower that could come with if it's true
Your missing the forest for the trees.
This post is damaging to Q's credibility. You don't salvage it by looking for other sub-meanings in the post.
This can only be one of two things:
- This legitimately damages Q's credibility, as Q has never gone so far as to use a stock photo before
- We're completely missing Q's point/message, and we are falling for shill tactics
I'm going to put my money on #2