Let's talk with Jim-san , who is the manager of bbspink.com. If you can write your questions or some other things in English, please write them in English.
Since Jim-san is very kind, so that in case you get spelling error, or write in incorrect grammar, he will be able to understand what you want to say.
Those who cannot understand English may write them in Japanese. Accommodating persons will translate for you.
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Jim
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： 2006/07/27 (水) 05:17:46
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volunteer update ◆IRAIaaV18I ◆DQN/9/VVV. ◆uRW6KoTaRo ◆IZUMI162i6 ◆sacrifyqG ◆79EROOYuCc koro ◆8j1enTAicY ◆MOMOwomoIk ◆MARY/2Kkkc. ありす ◆Alice7XIII ◆3X1b8VAs/E ◆yzY8OufLJI ◆TECHCS.zfQ Any complaints about the volunteers they must be made here, or on the next thread.
Politics of the world follows the place where the public opinion goes to, and be decided.
(in japanese) Bnaki kouron ni kessu beshi. 万機公論に決すべし。
Even if there will be any kind of circumstances, a principle does not change.
(in japanese) 原則は変わらない どんどん発言 遠慮はいらないでしょう。
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Jim
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： 2006/07/27 (水) 05:23:38
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Lets update our rules of deletion with the suggestions that have come in so far. After we are done with this. lets compare to 2ch rules. in most cases we will follow those. They are pretty good, and very long. Making me very sleepy everytime I read the translation I have. So we will have both words, from that and deeds from the list we make here. What we actually do.
* Telephone numbers of private #3 style people should be deleted. * email address that is for spam or that is being attacked should be deleted. * urls that do not have anything to do with the conversation should be deleted. additions * Multiple postings of same post to multiple boards. * Postings from someone that is under the age of 18. Mumumu-sans language is added, multiple, as in multiple orgasm is added. Cross, as in dressing is deleted.
I'm not getting answer of questioning and asking from you. If there isn't permission of you, my work isn't proceeded.
In that case, all volunteers will be not able to work, when coming time limit.
Please give me RIGHT to operate and construct of the deletion system. I've the ability to do. I'm fit. I can become leader. Please question Hiroyuki if you have some doubt in me. Don't you think my doing those work to be pleasant? I withdraw if you don't hope.
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Jim
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： 2006/07/27 (水) 05:36:41
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>>8 What will we do if the politician has no principle? The biggest concern for the safety of bbspink is from religious political groups in the USA. To them their religion is above the law, and it is ok to break the law to further their agenda. So the biggest concern I have in the deletion rules are that the threads and boards are enjoyable by the majority of the users. We can't do anything if the religious groups in the US take aim at us. It is probably very funny thinking for someone in Japan, but thatis my only worry. Almost all words typed on this bbs are protected by the constitution of the US. Even though the typist may be in Japan his words are stored in the US, and my principle mission is to protect them.
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Jim
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： 2006/07/27 (水) 05:38:46
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>>10 Toru-san my problem is not understanding your questions. gomenasai. I am happy to have you as volunteer if there are no complaints that are valid against you on this board.
Toru-san is a little stiff, but he's trustworthy man. As the occasion demands, he will work without sleeping. You obtained the excellent staff.
Toru-san is be impatient and hurry very much now!! He's desperately trying to make up for the delay. Soon, the staff of 2-channels will withdraw from BBS-PINK's work. Toru-san wants to operate deletion system before from the day when the staff of 2-channels withdraw. Please demand explanation from him.
There are so many, many users in 2ch/bbspink. So, you need not any worries in English problem. I think many 2ch/bbspink users translate your Japanese writing in this thread to English, for communication with Jim-san.
Again, please don't worry, you are not alone. Many users always help you.
http://qb5.2ch.net/saku/subback.html These all are requests to delelete, and the Deleters read the thread, then delete spam, and write "I deleted them." on the thread.
The Deleters only know how to delete. They must know spell for deletion, and their own ID and PASSWORD, too.
So, unfortunately, I am a very busy man so I think I can't allocate my time for translation for your articles.
But I don't have any worries about it. So, as I wrote before, there are so many users in 2ch/bbspink, of course this thread has many users, too. I think all of your Japanese articles will be translated automagically by many midgets. :-)
Aagin, please don't worry, we have so many strong users.
Toru-san wants to recruit deleters of PINKBBS. He has the special skill that sees through the eligible of deleters.
An official mail address of PINKBBS is necessary to recruit deleters. Please give an official mail address for the deleters recruitment to Toru-san. Could you grant permission that uses del@bbspink.com for Toru-san?
Excite translation uses Amikai's translation engine, it is very popular for online translation web page. But Yahoo translation does not use it, but Yahoo uses Cross Language's translation engine.
So, we can use both engines of course and we can choose and/or integrate the results. It is very useful for checking and taking diversity.
1, Jim-san must decide "Volunteer's Knowledge" in Japanese "心得(KOKOROE)". "Matter for which Jim-san hope to volunteers as manager", "Matter for which Jim-san doesn't hope to volunteers as manager" and "Matter where manager takes the consequences", These three items are at least necessary.
2, Jim-san should decide volunteer's leader. Normally, Jim-san may manage all. But, it isn't so realistic. I ran for the leader. However, other person may do. And, the official mail address is necessary. "del@bbspink.com" can be misappropriated to this.
3, Volunteers are registered. If item-2 can be cleared, this can be executed even at once. Volunteers come to be able to work at soon.
We should do these in a few days. Because the time limit is August 15th.
Jim-san, Hiroyuki wrote at 2channel http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sakud/1116424044/271-275 > I should do "Is the deletion script of bbspink name changed or the deletion request stop". > But, Worry is when I do it. > I will execute it within one month because I look at current state. He wrote when July 13th...
...English Fn ..tidying.. ｰ... Someone will be able to ask for the translation. As much as possible..translation..put..roll up..low.A hard gay doesn't permit compromising. Salvation by faith fooooooooooooooooooo!!
...retreat.. ｰ also. It is hard gay and ..becoming empty.. !. It is ..gym.. ｰ, and I am a hard gay who can delete it. Now, I want to see the telephone number and the ruining request. Okcai. ? .. ..will help without permission.. ..becoming empty.. though not judged by a formal deletion guideline it is detailed of not deciding. The waist moves without permission, too. It doesn't care even if the deletion account stops if my activity is not preferable. Batticori. I want to hold the activity as the volunteer I pray ..the admission...
Hello! Mr.Jim! I am MOMOTARO, one of the volunteers of BBSPINK. I know me well and cannot miss the results of the past of >>42 ◆ ZFz/q7JaS6 @ TORU ★ for future development of BBSPINK with a very splendid thing. Jim please accept his >>42 proposals by all means.
Because I do my best for development of a bulletin board, too; thanking you in advance.
Hi! I am Hard Gay. Jim-san! I am a hard-gay who can do deletion. Interim, I would like to take care of telephone number issues and request of cope with unexpected attack posting. Is it OOOOK? I will not judge detailed point before formal deletion guideline is created, but I will help without permission :-). My waist is also shaken without permission! It does not care even if the deletion account stops if my activity is not preferable. Come oooooon! I want to hold the activity as the volunteer. Pleeeeease accept!
>>42 Dear Jim-san We have manager's Jim-san and the thing that it wants you to decide it. It is this.
"Mr. volunteer's knowledges"
There are three elements in them.
1:What is the thing for which the manager hopes? 2:What is the thing for which the manager doesn't hope? 3:All the responsibilities are manager's things.
I think that the thing that these three elements at least become complete is necessary so that the volunteer may act by BBSPINK.
Deleter needs them not to be sued. Deleter might function if it does so. Therefore, it is necessary to clarify the contract terms between Deleter and Jim-san.
The volunteer gets the tool from the operator. Jim-san should decide the operator who brings them together. I guarantee that TORU-san has the ability for it.
>>11 "The threads and boards are enjoyable by the majority of the users." I got it. Although it is difficult to make a standard, do we add to a deletion policy about a slander?
>>47 イレイザーラモンHG ◆HG/Ok.YX3U is offering to become a volunteer.
I have a basic question for making a deletion policy. Will you save the bbs data as long as possible? The reason why I have this question is in the following. A value of information is increase if off-topic is deleted. If you will not save the bbs data for a long time, deleting off-topic is unnecessary, although it might be necessary to keep the rule of the topic.
we'd like to make a brief line, a kind of draft guide line based on 2ch gilde line.
Do you mind our discustting about that, and we'd like to show you that translation later. and you can change whatever if you do not like that.
is that ok or not?
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Jim
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： 2006/07/28 (木) 05:52:35
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volunteer update ◆IRAIaaV18I ◆DQN/9/VVV. ◆uRW6KoTaRo ◆IZUMI162i6 ◆sacrifyqG ◆79EROOYuCc koro ◆8j1enTAicY ◆MOMOwomoIk ◆MARY/2Kkkc. ありす ◆Alice7XIII ◆3X1b8VAs/E ◆yzY8OufLJI ◆TECHCS.zfQ イレイザーラモンHG ◆HG/Ok.YX3U Any complaints about the volunteers they must be made here, or on the next thread.
I am now taking nominations for leader. 1st nomination is Toro-san who has requested this job several times. It will be one your Office, and resigning is not allowed, except for unable to do the job because of sickness.
Are there any other nominations? I will not be able to be online for 72 hours, so lets make a deadline of Monday July 31 for nominations. After nominations we will have a vote and multiple post bbspink one time to let people know of the vote.
His handle name in Japanese is "トオル", so, it may fit to "Tooru-san", but he calls himself as "TORU", as you've seen before. So, I think you should use "TORU-san" as his name.
To Jim-san It increases making use of the translation software. If there is an impoliteness because of that, please pardon. I am the lesbian person.Jim-san knows, is glad when there is understanding in the homosexual love and the lesbian love, very. I thought that we would like to participate in the volunteer, by informing that. I think that in the future, we would like to cooperate as much as possible in you. Thank you.
I want to become a volunteer of BBIPINK Deletor.(Not Leader) I send an email to TORU-san, and it is conveyed the intention. If you are interested what kind of person I am, please try to ask TORU-san. He will judge whether I am suitable for Deletor.
I think TORU is most suitable as a leader till the system which we make operates smoothly. When the system operate smoothly,then another people will be the leader. TORU is too busy to stay at the position.
hajimemashite. (Do you know? It is a meaning of "Nice to meet you" in English. in Japanese はじめまして )
I somewhat understand English. However, it is not good writing English. I am sorry,if there is an impoliteness.
I was participating in the discussion about bbspink as "the anonymous coward". And I'm 2channel's volunteer. It is of course 18 years old or more. First of all, I want to tell the administrator of BBPINK my intention. Could you make me help BBSPINK? I would like to become a BBSPINK's volunteer.
Nice to meet you the Jim-san. My name is 龍◆0RbUzIT0To I like this bulletin board very much. I want to be useful for Jim-san. Chore Translation Deletion and so on Please let the volunteer participate by all means Thanks
I recommend IZUMI_san almost as same as TORU_san. He has a sense of responsibility, too, and English is a story and wisdom, too. He resigned a deletion person of 2ch to become a deletion person of BBSPINK. I think that IZUMI_san is suitable. TORU_san is powerful for a BBSPINK start; think that support it.
>>68 All volunteers cooperate in you for oneself. They have own life. They cooperate in you within the possible range.
If the resignation is not allowed, you might lose them. They are here for the communications place. They are volunteer to not you but users. Your volunteer is the means for it. So, they want to be avoiding own load.
If you hope for maintenance by volunteers like 2ch, you should consider for volunteers.
I think that I decrease the load by nominating more leaders. You need not prohibit resigning. Even if someone resigns, you only have to adopt it newly. And, This plan will make the time that you adopt any leaders.
>>68 > I am now taking nominations for leader. > 1st nomination is Toro-san who has requested this job several times. It will be one your > Office, and resigning is not allowed, except for unable to do the job because of sickness.
Jim-san,
I think you have to explain the reason why leader is one your office, and resigning is not allowed.
I think it is very important point of your administration policy. So, it is time to use following thread for publishing your point of view with your cap.
Do you think that the volunteer has the obligation? Moreover, will it assume the responsibility to volunteer? Are there differences in leader's condition and volunteer's condition?
2channel's volunteer has neither obligation nor responsibility. They help so that the user may use the bulletin board comfortably. Do you intend to change this stance?
I am "cyan", deletion person on 2channnel. And I was doing deletion on bbspink as same as. I'd like to join bbspink's volunteer also future. May I have those work?
Please understand the volunteer system of 2ch at 1st.
* The deletion system of 2ch is not perfect. * The deletion system of 2ch needs a lot of volunteer. * The participation reason for the volunteer of 2ch has only their own motivation.
To keep the scale, you should defend them from the risks. I think that the following concepts are necessary to defend them.
What is Deleter?
Deleter can delete only for user's convenience. Deleter cannot do the deletion that makes the infringement of right and the law, etc. grounds. Only Mr. Jim can judge it.
Deleter is a user. Only the deletion as the user is admitted in Deleter. Deleter cannot take part in the site management and the policy as the organization.
>>◆79EROOYuCc Please correct the difference of the delicate nuance.
>>122 2ch has Hiroyuki-san. But, BBSPINK doesn't have the person in charge in Japan. Deleter comes to have to delete the malfeasance and the violation if there is no limitation. When Deleter was not able to be deleted, this will become a legal risk.
Deleter is not a specialist of the law. To avoid the risk even if message is the justifiable criticism, Deleter must delete it. Please understand the lawsuit risk of Deleter is larger than that of Mr. Jim in Japan.
Please hire professionals if you request the interpretation of the law to Deleter. If Mr. Jim requests it to the any volunteers, I cannot agree.
I think that the grinding match of the aspect as the American of Mr. jim and the Japanese by the user and the aspect is necessary for the guideline and knowing BBSPINK.
And, I think that the guideline should receive the examination by the specialist as Mr. MUMUMU is proposing it.
> So, your meaning is that a deleter does not need to follow the law > when he/she judges a deletion No. I think Deleter must not follow the law. All Japanese have to correspond to the infringement of right if it is possible. If Deleter can do a legal judgment as the site, Deleter will not be able to escape the obligation.
Example ***************************************************************** Dear BBSPINK,
The message might be a justifiable criticism. However, you are hesitating in whether it is a justifiable criticism or an infringement of right. Can you judge "Do not delete it" for this request? And, can you say to other Deleter, "Please have the danger"?
RE:IZUMI of IZUMI;co ｢I claimed "you" should delete. The reason is a violation of the law. However, the deletion was refused. I want to pursue this responsibility. ｣
at this time
D:｢i do not have a knowledge of law. And i am not a lawyer. Therefore, i am not being given the authority to do a legal judgment by the owner. Only the owner has this power. It is clearly shown in http://pie.bbspink.com/xxx/｣
I think that he/she should be able to insist like this.
>>125 I am not sure about it, but I do not think it is a big problem, because I could find many web site in Japan says only "not to enter under 18 years old".
>>127 Thank you for your explanation and an example. I still do not understand this part why is it? "If Deleter can do a legal judgment as the site, Deleter will not be able to escape the obligation."
>The message might be a justifiable criticism. >However, you are hesitating in whether it is a justifiable criticism or an infringement of right. >Can you judge "Do not delete it" for this request? >And, can you say to other Deleter, "Please have the danger"?
If the deleter is not sure, then he/she can ask a leader. If the leader is not sure, then he/she can ask Jim. If Jim does not delete it, then Jim gets a plaint. The volunteer has no legal risk, here.
>>128 Very good point, Kotaro-san. To avoid both the legal risk and illegal risk, I suggest one volunteer obligation.
* An official volunteer must keep secret on the public about his/her contact address. Otherwise, Jim can not prevent from someone sending a volunteer a plaint.
>>130 If deleter can stop the infringement of right as the Japanese people.
Hesitating might be no problem. If Deleter judges, "I leave this message", the risk is generated. So, Deleter will be not able to do the judgment that leaves the message.
Therefore, I ask you again. Can you judge "Do not delete it" for this request? And, can you say to other Deleter, "Please have the danger"?
>>131-132 Now, finally, I think I got your intention. I was impressed for your consideration. So, you think a risk is generated when a deleter recognizes a writing has a violation.
I think that a risk is not generated yet, when a deleter find a writing and he does not recognizes a violation, even if it has a violation. So, he has to delete when he is sure about a violation, but he can leave it when he is not sure.
>Can you judge "Do not delete it" for this request?
Yes, I can leave a posting, when I do not recognize it has a violation.
>And, can you say to other Deleter, "Please have the danger"?
No, I cannot say it. I allow them to delete anytime when they recognize a violation.
>>134 Jim-san must know our personality to build trust, not only understanding each idea. The conversation above helps Jim-san to understand IZUMI-san's personality, including his deep consideration, strong patient, maturely. I think it is more valuable than we talk without Jim-san's eyes. It was a reason I used this sled.
I close this conversation, although I am sorry before seeing his flexibility. I believe he has it.
>>137 Thank you for your conversation. I touched your mind and I enjoyed it, today.
>>139 says: For Japanese speakers who post comments only with English: I think it would be better to post comment with both Japanese and English. Japanese people would be able to feel fine nuance from original text, and if there are mistakes in translated text, people could figure out it and can correct it. Of course, English-translated text could help Jim-sam to understand course of story.
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Jim
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： 2006/07/31 (日) 03:59:06
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I am back, what a long strange trip it has been. I would have been online yesterday but I was caught up in a flood in the Philippines. Let me read what has happened now and then I will start answering people.
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Jim
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： 2006/07/31 (日) 04:41:18
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>>91>>92 I am thinking leader should have the position for 1 year and next election next year. My thought on no resignation is this. Volunteers can resign anytime they want to, they are under no obligation. Leader is elected position, and is for 1 year. Since it is anonymous election, nobody would really know the offline person that is elected. So it would be on your honor to help make the new election for next new leader if you can not stay for 1 year.
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Jim
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： 2006/07/31 (日) 04:44:50
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>>96 Volunteers may come and go as they please. There is no obligation. Lets use the system comfortably, and have fun.
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Jim
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： 2006/07/31 (日) 04:55:49
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>>109 >>111 Tubo is great! This is tubo http://tubo.80.kg/ It is pronounced Turbo in english with the R sound. so tubo is better for Japanese I think.
I think that there is a problem in "http://test.up.bbspink.com/upload.php".
When an illegal image was uploaded, bbspink is brought into question directly by 1, uploader of bbspink. It is different from a note of url of a bulletin board
Because 2, a bbspink bulletin board do not suffer from a site to offer an obscene image falling under a Japanese law to, I think that it is the method that is not good that treat an image in a bbspink domain.
There is little demand for "http://test.up.bbspink.com/upload.php". I wish that I want use to stop. Even if there is not uploader, there can be a bbspink bulletin board. I am concerned about problem outbreak by uploader in bbspink.
Responsibility of the person that the first deletes it is a thing to where. IZUMI_san is the same as it being asked you a question in res.
It is asked so a court of law responsibility about deletion in 2ch, and I do not intend to appear.
The second is a question about a leader. A leader manages an account of other members. I mean as for it namely that I obtain personal information of other members. A deletion account and personal e-mail address.
A leader seems to be a - turn to totally clean, and, as for me, there is resistance in what - changes in one year.
ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ ｳﾜｧｧｧﾝ！ I feel like being machine translation tatters. . . .
My English is strange
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Jim
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： 2006/07/31 (日) 06:05:36
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Maybe I am making a mistake on asking for a 1 year office?
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Jim
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： 2006/07/31 (日) 06:13:14
ID:
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I was going to answer each question individually but so many are basically the repeated question of who is responsible. Let me answer. I am completely responsible for bbspink. Nobody else has any legal liability with it. deleters are volunteers, and are not to be known publicly. personal information will not be collected If there is personal information it will be kept in the USA, and only I will have access to it.
Dear Mr Jim. I'm one of the user of bbs pink. My U.S.E is poor, But I try to be bridge.
That's point is important for everyone, Mr jim. The Volunteer would like to know the most basic decision of the structure.
"Who will take the legal accountability?"
Court already adjudicated, "bulletin board manager owes legal accountability". Concretely, - Defamation, violation of Goodwill. - about Compensation for damages.
The Volunteer is not manager, Ofcourse. The Volunteer is not some part of the management. That's why, The Volunteer will not able to take the responsibility, specially about legal accountability.
The volunteer only deletes the case with the breach of rules like the machine. The manager judges the deletion request that reason is illegal.
It is necessary to post it officially. General's word will move a lot of volunteers. like a military forces.
and, The Volunteer worries about leader knows to another volunteer's privacy. basicly, -Leak of official secrets-
Does Jim_san perform setting of a deletion script and setting of a deletion account?
For the staff who cannot speak English, as for it, I think to become a slightly difficult problem. There is the reason why we request a leader of a deletion person there.
>>156 Leader will organize the deleters. I want to have the vote because we have had two nominations for leader, and then we can begin to work on the task at hand. Leader will also be anonymous and I will take complete responsibility for bbspink.
Because she can mediate between Jim and a volunteer by English. I think that she approaches a bulletin board to think of of Jim than a person showing the leadership.
Besides, she can go out with you in "デンパ". Her circumstances can become a volunteer and a cushion between Jim.
>>162 The leader has no obligation to do anything. It is only a matter of convenience and wanting to do something for the community that will motivate the leader. I am hoping that our deletion leader is someone that wants to help.
This handle is "ひろゆき ★", not "どうやら管理人 ★", because you are not an administrator of bbspink.
But its password is the same as "どうやら管理人 ★" in 2ch. So, now you can use it here for authenticating yourself.
As you know, currently the BE system does not work in bbspink, so, I recommend you would use the cap handle for preventing the forgery of your important writing.
Because it is machine translation, contents may not come precisely, but try to write it.
All of you hello that it is used Jim and this thread. It is HG. I have deleted a thread of this place by false operation of a deletion tool by mistake today. I think that a lot of people surprised at a sudden thing come. I am sorry to trouble all of you. I'm sorry. I will carry out such an activity carefully more carefully in future not to fail.
>>164 Good job, Jim-san. When are you going to close the vote? I want to wait for voting until hearing their final mind whether they want to be a leader or not.
And I have an wish about the previous thread of this.
The current 2ch/bbspink system, the 1000-reached threads are archived to the pastlog storage.
As you know, the pastlog archive can read by '●' (oyster) system by using 2ch browsers, but currently, oyster system does not support for standard web browsers, typically IE and Firefox, etc.
So, I think the previous thread should be archived and HTML-nized on some other place for publishing and referencing our important discussion.
Could someone undertake this?
-- Mumumu
P.S. I think this page should be written in both English and Japanese, because Jim-san would refer it.
>>167 I am sorry for the inconvenience. It is the only Japanese voting site I knew. Don`t most people have cellphone in Japan now? Please vote anyway domo wazawaza sumi-masen
155 名前：Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys [] 投稿日：2006/07/31(月) 15:13:14 ID:laeG3rQ4 I was going to answer each question individually but so many are basically the repeated question of who is responsible. Let me answer. I am completely responsible for bbspink. Nobody else has any legal liability with it. deleters are volunteers, and are not to be known publicly. personal information will not be collected If there is personal information it will be kept in the USA, and only I will have access to it.
160 名前：Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★[] 投稿日：2006/07/31(月) 15:26:28 ID:??? >>156 Leader will organize the deleters. I want to have the vote because we have had two nominations for leader, and then we can begin to work on the task at hand. Leader will also be anonymous and I will take complete responsibility for bbspink.
163 名前：Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★[] 投稿日：2006/07/31(月) 15:32:56 ID:??? >>162 The leader has no obligation to do anything. It is only a matter of convenience and wanting to do something for the community that will motivate the leader. I am hoping that our deletion leader is someone that wants to help.
I'm sorry for delay of introduce myself. My name is ◆DQN/9/VVV. I am honored to place the name in a line as a volunteer. I also rely on the machine translation.Please forgive the thing.
If someone requests the deletion for the reasons for defamation, what should deleters do? Can Deleters judge it is defamation or not? Or does Jim-san do it?
These are IZUMI-san's ideas of "KOKOROE". http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~eita/kokoroe.html He is hoping to be a leader under this condition. The purposes of his ideas are to protect a deleter from a law risk, to avoid making a mistake, and to organize smoothly.
A purpose of my translation is only that you to understand his ideas roughly. These rules have to be edited substantially and grammatically before issuing, if you use his ideas.
(Please change "he" to "she" when it is necessary.)
"KOKOROE", RULES OF DELETER
●1. WHAT IS A DELETER?
1. A deleter is a BBSPINK user who is given the right to delete only under the limited condition. 2. A deleter is being for protecting the user's smooth communication. Therefore, a deleter pays attention about not disturbing the user's communication on his work of deletion.
●2. A LIMIT OF WORK OF A DELETER
1. A deleter deletes only an object which is appointed on a deletion policy and a local rule; however, Jim's judgement is more than all rules. 2. A deleter does not delete his posting by himself except posting his cap information. 3. A deleter does not delete a posting when he is not sure a posting should be deleted or not. 4. A deleter deletes a posting of a rights abuse along a deletion policy and a local rule, but must not to do a judgement along a law. A deleter does not have a right to do a judgement it by a law, but only Jim has a right to judge it by a law. (A purpose is to protect a deleter from a law risk.) 5. If a deleter has deleted a posting which is not appointed on a deletion policy, he has to explain to Jim and a leader why he has done it. It may be opened on a thread of discussion of a deletion. 6. The deleter must not leak out own account information of deletion under one's control. 7. A deleter has to keep a secret about information of a script of deletion and information of administration. 8. A deleter must not get a thing or money for his work on deletion.
1. A deleter deletes a posting along a deletion policy, and also he has a right freely to leave a posting without deleting. 2. A request of deletion helps a deleter to find a posting, but also he has a right to delete without a request. 3. A deleter takes responsibility to Jim along the rules of deleter when he uses his right to delete. 4. A deleter is allowed to quit a work whenever he wants to. 5. A deleter may be forced to quit when he works beyond a limit of the rules.
●4. NECESSARY THINGS
1. A deleter needs to reserve an e-mail address for contact. 2. A deleter needs to check for new notes (Mailing List?) for deleters within a required period.(How long?) 3. A deleter has to report in advance when he cannot be on conditions of "Necessary Things".
●5. THINGS TO PLEASE DO IF POSSIBLE
1. A deleter please reports after deleting for a request, if it is possible. 2. A deleter please pays attention not to open on the public about his personal information, if it is possible. 3. A deleter please reports when he has a problem or a question on his work, if it is possible.
●6. ABOUT AN AGREEMENT
1. The rules of deleter may be changed sometimes. A deleter contacts Jim or a leader within a week(?) if he does not agree with the new rules.
I am trying translation Izumi-san's KOKOROE by using my spare time. This is completely my hobby and one of the trainings of my English skill. So it is like masturbating. :-)
- their deletions. The explanations may publish in suitable + their deletions. The explanations may be published in suitable
- 2.6 The deleters must administrate by themselves their deletion - account. + 2.6 The deleters must administrate in their good intentions their + deletion account by themselves.
And I can't update my translation until tonight for my main job.
>>232 What a beautiful and an academical writing, it is! I am sure that Jim-san will understand more deeply after reading your draft. I hope Jim-san likes KOKOROE.
Hello jim-san. I am suffering an illness. The sickness is epilepsy. It is not usually at all and is peaceful. Whether when and where the sickness occurs is not understood. It is necessary to take a rest all day long when the sickness occurs. In a word, it is not understood that it becomes impossible when to do the duty suddenly due to sickness. May even such man do the volunteer?
It was an interesting vote result that two candidates got almost same number of votes. I can see from the results that both candidates did not do an injustice, and neither did the users. I am glad that the BBSPINK users are moral and gentle. I am so excited at starting the new BBSPINK under Jim-san and a new leader.
◆ANALFUCKo6 (>>235) and >>238 are offering to become the volunteers.
I will apply them to my English translation later.
And I have two wishes to you about your KOKOROE.
1) Please add version number and last modified date/time for clarification. 2) If you can, please notify all changes in this thread for notifying to Jim-san.
I think the quality of your KOKOROE is very good and bright, so, I decided do masturbating. (>>228)
First version fo The guideline of BBSPINK did Fix. ◆SELEN/.zg6-san is translating it now. When his work is completed, I ask whether it contradicts your policy.
- 2.8 The deleters must not receive any articles and money as a value - of their deletions. + 2.8 The deleters must not receive any benefits as a value of their + deletions.
@@ -85,4 +84,5 @@
- 4.2 The deleters must confirm the contents of regular announcement - by mailing list and in BBSPINK bulletin boards. + 4.2 The deleters must confirm the notifications before using their + competence that are noticed by mailing lists, BBSPINK bulletin + boards and other specified media.
Jim-san, I send to you volunteer application mail what I keep. And afterwards, I annul those mail. You said "If there is personal information it will be kept in the USA, and only I will have access to it.". I hope it forever.
Please prepare a board with the password for Deleters and volunteers. If We have a board with Password, We can consult about the script and the deletion judgment, and a well-known report and information share.
I think that the restrictions are more important than the deletions for communications.
◆Reffiz2Zh is a restriction volunteer. He is Leader of restriction volunteers in 2ch. The authority of his restriction is larger than the authority of Hiroyuki-san. The restriction of BBSPINK is shared with the restriction of 2ch.
The protest against ISP is done by restriction volunteers. They have knowhow. And, They have mutual trust with ISP.
He will cooperate as follows if Jim-san permit. * Permission to negotiate with ISP with BBSPINK * Permission of deregulation. * Jim-san's mail address for Cc when mail is sent to ISP.
I think that Jim-san should give all of the right concerning the access limitation to him. If his cooperation can be received, we will be able to help the user more.
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1153830220/610 Hiroyuki said: Does read.cgi or bbs.cgi stop? If Jim-san meets the following, Jim-san can freely use the script. Jim-san doesn't sell others the script. Jim-san doesn't open the script to the public.
Sorry but I think that ◆IZUMI162i6 san has misread Hiroyuki san's opinion. Hiroyuki san said that the scripts, bbs.cgi and read.cgi, are free to use, except for selling or publication. So, even if the link to PINK is deleted from 2ch, the scripts can be used.
I inform all users of "Jim at 80 dot kg". It becomes an official contact method to you. We cannot receive permission that uses the law from you. You have to solve your risks by yourself. The deletion request that cannot be judged exists in Deleter. "Jim at 80 dot kg" will receive the deletion request that cannot be judged by Deleter.
Could you employ a official translator as this site? I and volunteers keep acting. We do not have time to translate the conversation with you. You have to prepare the person who translates.
There was a person who brought my idea together by another thread. When my idea is transmitted to Jim-san, it is glad.
http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1153824407/932 We need your decision for the important matter deletion request. English is necessary to recognize the problem correctly. But, Almost users do not request in English, and also we too. That's why, We think that Translator is necessary for the important deletion demand, for you and for users. Could you solve this problem? I mean, Could you prepare the translator?
305 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/08 (月) 10:04:53
ID:
RMH5F/Jo
Wow so many things to respond to. Please understand. I am reading Kokoroe now, I like it so far. It is well thought out. I am using firefox browser, and tubo Waiting for the love letters....;)
Welcome to Japan!!! Because U JIM-SAN didn't appear readily, we all have been just waiting for you to visit. PLZ read all sentences which were written in English. Appreciate. We all love U.
320 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/09 (火) 01:48:19
ID:
/c5ci+hR
>>317 it is the first I have heard of this extension. I am looking for it now. THanks for all the welcomes guys.I really am happy I had a chance to come here. Even by accident. I will have to leave tomorrow though.
321 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/09 (火) 02:06:10
ID:
vRPkuByx
Izakaya(Japanese bar), general grade Japanese restaurant, high grade Japanese restaurant, American(or Western) style restaurant, which one do you like?
I cannot go to the party for a while because the preparation for Comike is busy. (T_T
Let you enjoys the night of Shinjuku.
331 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/09 (火) 07:37:02
ID:
3GK3b9rq
>>329 I am getting hungry I could eat a whale. What type? I think Blue whale would be the tastiest. Probably I will eat at my friend`s cafe tonight. http://gk.cool.ne.jp/~shanghai/
332 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/09 (火) 07:39:02
ID:
3GK3b9rq
Have you ever gone to "Don Quijote (ドンキホーテ)" in Shinjuku? It is a shopping place like Wal-mart or Target, but the difference from them is that it has an adult toys corner, and it opens 24 hours. They have an English web site for the directions. http://www.donki.com/c/shop/shop_en.php?lang=en&shopid;=8 I think You will like it.
Though the directions page does not say, exit from 東口(East bound) at Shinjuku station. Find an adult toys corner, and have fun if you have a time to go there.
I am >>238 of this thread. I applied for a volunteer by an email before. （for del@bbspink.com） However, because I heard that I "had better propose it here", I will make a note.
I will propose to a volunteer.
And I love you !!
346 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/10 (水) 19:42:38
ID:
kP6e9qEH
volunteer update ◆IRAIaaV18I ◆DQN/9/VVV. ◆uRW6KoTaRo ◆IZUMI162i6 ◆sacrifyqG ◆79EROOYuCc koro ◆8j1enTAicY ◆MOMOwomoIk ◆MARY/2Kkkc. ありす ◆Alice7XIII ◆3X1b8VAs/E ◆yzY8OufLJI ◆TECHCS.zfQ イレイザーラモンHG ◆HG/Ok.YX3U ◆YassyNGhTM ◆IG7FqGWJqU Techcs ◆TECHCS.zfQ エボラ ◆172VC7723I ◆NerINe83fk halc/cyan ◆duswpnLeMU 苺 ◆BladeyqILk ＠いちごぴんく ★ ◆/zZzZz/POE ◆witch2enoc If I missed anyone please complain here....;) I am really sleepy I just got back to San Francisco. Every part of everything I had was searched when I went through customs. I really dislike that. Does anyone know how to get off of their harrassment list?
355 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/11 (木) 02:13:06
ID:
kP6e9qEH
>>354 Yes to much harrassment. I just want to go smoke after I get off the airplane. I don't want to stand for hours and hours and be questioned and have everything I travel with be completely searched.
>>355 It is unbelievable why they search from their citizen who was born in the US. (I assume you are a citizen born in the US.) Also, it is hard to understand searching after getting off the airplane, though it is understandable doing before getting on.
Anyway, welcome back to your home, BBSPINK! Sleep well, tonight.
P.S. You missed a few offering for becoming the volunteers.
Customs spent your time. Is it the influence of the terrorism plan prevention in UK? Information was spreading earlier. Because a criminal was arrested, UK government understood beforehand. So US gov. too.
How does the matter of the new guide-line for deletion? Do U already checked?
>>361 You are welcome, Jim-san. I was sorry for your trouble in the customs. Did you mean that you were searched more than other people, everytime? If so, I am really wondering why they do. Do you carry a religious thing such as a Buddhist rosary with you?
By the way, I have a suggestion, Jim-san.
Let's make a new thread for taking focusly about the rules of deletion with Jim-san. The reason is because some people who want to talk to Jim-san about a topic besides the deletion have hesitated. They worry about stopping a discussion of the rules of deletion by chatting. And also, the volunteers are eager looking forward to complete the rules of deletion.
I am going to make the new thread for talking about the rules of deletion, if you agree with it and you are going to join it.
363 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/11 (木) 15:34:10
ID:
iNS1kFNe
I have one doubt. In what meaning are you using the word "volunteer"?
In general, the Japanese is using this word in a simple meaning "Person who works free of charge". The obligation is thin there. Moreover, there is a person who thinks that there is a limit in the responsibility that can be assumed, too.
383 ：
One resident of bbs
[sage]
： 2006/08/12 (金) 10:31:04
ID:
WnJ80+8X
Dear Jim-san
I feel another doubt about the definition of "Volunteer" that you say. Are you using word "volunteer" in the meaning "People who delete improper contribution in pink bbs and people who do work related to secret about the technical systems of pink bbs"?
If it is so, I have one anxiety. It is a thing that all volunteer aspirants can join your volunteer list without the examination at all. They only have nothing but to apply with the handle name.
According to the current custom, 2ch bbs & pink bbs always imposed the examination on aspirants when they adopt volunteer of management. The purpose of it is not to adopt the person who does unjust deletion because when such a despotic person becomes volunteer, free speech in bbs is not guaranteed.
Many of volunteer aspirants might be the people of good intentions, I think. However, the content of the activity of volunteer accompanies power and the technical secret transferred by you. If you are a manager who esteems pink bbs user's free speech, I hope for an enough examination for adoption of volunteer.
384 ：
One resident of bbs
[sage]
： 2006/08/12 (金) 10:31:58
ID:
WnJ80+8X
Conveniently, we have already had one volunteer recruitment with an appropriate examination. You are sure to have received the application mail from TORU-san.
I hope to do continuing the recruitment, and to make only the person who passes the examination volunteer. The examination was a summary of the content of "Thread that discusses deletion of contribution of pink bbs". It is a very suitable examination in the purpose to confirm their discernment and seriousness about the content of the volunteer's work.
If there is a wall of the language for you to read the application mail in Japanese, you will be able to nominate a Japanese trustworthy deputy. He will execute the examination instead of you.
I am sorry in the long sentence. If it is possible, Please consider it...
386 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/12 (金) 18:20:07
ID:
HH6xaXKu
>>383 Despots need not apply....;) I understand your feelings about this. all I can say is がんばる Trustworthy Japanese deputy would have to much liability. Due to the nature of this board it is better to be managed from the United States. I am sure the volunteers come from all over the world, not just Japan, so lets think of it as a world board. I hope deletions are kept to a minimum, and I think that the volunteers so far have spent an enormous amount of time thinking and pondering the meaning of deletions. Please tell me more about your ideas for an examination.
I am ひまゆき(himayuki) ◆3HioLDbjnQ. I would like to become a Adjuster. It is because I like decide a lot of things reading. When the user can be helped, I think that I am glad. See you again.
389 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/13 (土) 12:27:39
ID:
HH6xaXKu
>>323 I like the extension, but there should be a way to put your handle in so you dont have to type it each time. Whoever is the developer, that is on my wish list.
390 ：
One resident of bbs
[sage]
： 2006/08/13 (土) 15:10:34
ID:
vykHbnX/
Thank you for your answer and the word がんばる.o(^O^)o
> I am sure the volunteers come from all over the world, not just Japan, so lets think of it > as a world board. I understand your grand view. If pink bbs will be more internationalized in the future, it might be very excited.
However, we should think, at least in the current state, the majority of the contribution of pink bbs are being written in Japanese. I saw your remark by another thread. （http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1155312645/62） But according to my poor knowledge, there is a thing that user in living in Japan is used the domain of the foreign country and accessed bbs. Perhaps, his remark by the same thread might serve as a reference. （http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1155312645/72）
Anyway, I think that the following fact is important, regardless of the nationality of the user himself, the majority of the contribution with pink bbs are being written in Japanese. A local rule of each bulletin board and the procedure of the deletion request are being written in Japanese, too.
If the volunteer has the ability to delete improper contributions, they should have the ability to judge whether the contribution is "improper" or not. Enough number of talent who understands a slight Japanese nuance is necessary for us by all means.
391 ：
One resident of bbs
[sage]
： 2006/08/13 (土) 15:12:04
ID:
vykHbnX/
Therefore, to select and to generalize them, a Japanese (at least understands Japanese) deputy is necessary, I think. I think that it is IZUMI162i6 suitability for the role chosen by the election.
The deputy is , so to speak, your window in Japan. You need not limit the deputy to him alone. If it is necessary, you will only have to nominate the foreign deputy for the foreign volunteers. However, even if you make another the window for the foreign country, there is no reason why the window for Japan is not made. I think that it is the most suitable method for the current state.
392 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/13 (土) 16:48:06
ID:
ipllzVzm
>>389 Does anyone know how to get in touch with the firefox developer?
it seems like you want to make bbspink be under Japanese law. that doesn't make sense. if you want to make it happen, you should make your own bbs. Who's going to take responsibility? Do you want to?
I think becoming of ◆ANALFUCKo6-san to leader when Izumi-san and I cannot become leaders to be preferable. ◆ANALFUCKo6-san said that a legal risk will not leave either. ◆ANALFUCKo6-san is a reliable person.
Because my connection environment is a narrow band, my ID might be different from last night. So, I put trip and a handle name after this. よろしく.
Are you dissatisfied with my >>390-391 proposal? If it is so, I don't have other ideas for smooth operation of pink bbs. I'm sorry that it cannot propose a useful opinion for you.
>>386 Jim-san > Please tell me more about your ideas for an examination.
If you are dissatisfied with a past content of the examination, we might be able to improve it. But as long as you don't clarify the thing who takes charge of the examination, it might be difficult to discuss the improvement about it.
For the above-mentioned reasons (>>390-391), I think the best method is that, the person who understands Japanese examines it in Japanese. However, if you don't hope for it, it is meaningless to assume the examination in Japanese.
So, may I hear the following?
When ◆ IZUMI162i6, chosen by our election, undertakes the volunteer leader post in Japan, do you have a mind to leave the selection of the volunteer in Japan to him? Or, are you scheduling another method?
>>393 > it seems like you want to make bbspink be under Japanese law.
From which part of my contribution, did you feel it like that? I said that the deputy and the volunteer who understood Japanese were necessary for pink bbs. However, it is from a simple, practical reason that present pink bbs consists chiefly by contributing Japanese. The problem of the law and the responsibility seems to be discussed here and there actively now. But it is quite irrelevant to my >>390-391 proposal. I didn't think of what you said at all.
To begin with, isn't it a thing the law of which country manages pink bbs that administration of justice in each country decides?
399 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/14 (日) 02:30:03
ID:
ipllzVzm
>>398 I am not ignoring or not answering your proposal. It is just so unbelievable to me that someone would even consider what you are saying. I have been pondering your words very sincerely, and still am not quite understanding your words. Perhaps we have already discussed and come to a conclusion on another thread on these subjects. Anyway I will continue to think about what you have proposed, but I am not sure if it will ever come to pass.
>>399 Jim-san I have understood your policy well. At present, you don't have will make a Japanese deputy. The reason is.... consideration to the law, or distrust to the deputy, or might be anything else.
However, if you don't borrow power of the Japanese deputy, I feel insecurity very much to a substantial meaning of your >>386 word "がんばる".
Indeed, you say that you accept the opinion if there is a problem in the volunteer's list. However, how do you judge the opinion? Or, when other people, including the person himself denied, objects the opinion, how do you judge it? がんばる by using the machine translation and the dictionary? It might be proof of your sincerity. But I worry that it is uneasy.....
I don't want to criticize to you needlessly. However, it is not a thing limited to this matter, please understand people and a lot of we worry about the future of pink bbs very much.
Perhaps, one of the reasons why you don't need a Japanese deputy is, for further freedom of pink bbs? When judging it from my scarce English language skill, your >>386 remark can be interpreted so.
Jim-san This is a very important problem. Toru-san and IZUMI-san sent an email of very important contents to you（in Japanese）. And they were grieved that there was not a reply.
Do not you receive an email from them at all?
409 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/15 (月) 00:44:38
ID:
DJFbDLVO
>>408 I have not received email from them. I am corresponding with other Pink channelers but not those two.
The important document which relates to the choice of Deleter as for Toru-san in an important intention expression about administration of BBSPINK as for IZUMI-san again. They should have written plural emails.
I feel surprise in Jim-san not receiving those emails. This is a serious situation.
We ask you about what we do not understand. Whenever an answer from you does not come out, we are disappointed. It please show an answer of the past that you already answered. Thus it is possible we feel relieved, and to walk it with you from now. I ask a similar question, but it is not good to get through you to know your real intention.
We do a question and a wish if necessary. There is a case to get the answer that it is necessary even to think that you are not important to work to a partner. If there is not reaction, we cannot move excessively. Because some questions that we wanted you to answer do not have an answer (an action), work is in condition not to be possible, and we are stagnant.
"Manager decision" is necessary to manage it with GL. Even if you think that contents are not important, an answer is necessary.
If it is often that an answer is not provided almost now, future administration will be difficult.
Because a mechanism is not ready, deletion of BBSpink will stop. Please look back on a remark of Toru.
I do not have confidence that defends Deleter in your policy. I think that there is a so big risk in BBSPINK in Japan.
But, there is a person who thinks enough in your policy. I cannot be convinced of safety. But, if the person can be convinced of safety, I want to leave everything to the person.
It is not only your policy that I feel it uneasily. I have written information here for several days. But, I do not think that I can have the communication of an enough intention with you. And, this state might continue in the future.
A lot of time is necessary between you and me. However, I cannot give you a lot of time.
This is a basic problem. Deletion is not possible only by having begun a list of a volunteer. We cannot delete it unless we have you set a deletion account on a server. It is a state pampered by a deletion account of 2CHANNEL being left now. I do not understand when a deletion account of 2CHANNEL is raised.
Does Jim-san set a deletion account? Or who is it?
The same person is engaged in regulation work before. The need that a share of a pink channel performed report work and cancellation with a reputation of Jim by a clear change of a manager occurred. http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1154072524/l50
Jim-san A person good at English conversation is not necessarily excellent as the volunteer of PINKBBS. The friend who is with Mr. jim is not necessarily excellent as the volunteer of PINKBBS.
The person who has run for the volunteer here is not necessarily a good man.
The person who decides the Japanese volunteer's adoption should have it.
HIROYUKI-san of manager of 2ch. TORU-san that did management assistance of 2ch. Excellent IZUMI-san. Experience, knowledge, and Japanese ability equal with these three people.
Please hear the voice of TORU-san and IZUMI-san more. For the happiness of the user of PINKBBS.
430 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/15 (月) 08:10:35
ID:
IE+YcjBt
>>424 Very cryptic. I do answer questions. I don't answer those that attempt to bait me. Maybe Toru and Izumi are excellent, but mostly they seem to be trying to bully me and take away from other users things that they enjoy. Both of them have already quit and restarted and quit and resigned and retired. How can I believe these two that are so highly recommended to me?
Japan is "盆" in the present time. It is a festival "盆" meets an ancestral soul, and to become lively. Therefore nationalism spreads, and a manner to a foreign country stiffens. Not Izumi and a problem of Toru, it is a problem of the Japanese total time.
If you sentence you to Japanese volunteer need of a great many people, it is necessary you accept feelings of a Japanese side, and to make a system.
>>430 If you want to retain bbspink, please do not say such a thing.
I feel it unless time to talk with you among them is enough. You are in a position to administer bbspink newly. So, you must break off a problem of a system to administer U.S.A. and a Japanese legitimate problem and bulletin board. However, you do not spend the time that is need in bbspink to solve a problem so far. It is the serious time to move the system now. I think that I am to be very important for bbspink in the future how long I spend time in bbspink now.
433 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/15 (月) 09:14:48
ID:
IE+YcjBt
>>432 Powerful expletive deleted! How do you know how much fucking time or what I do for bbspink? You are just Powerful expletive deleted. Good night jerik.
You said that you did not take an E-mail of Toru and Izumi at all. However, he told that Toru sent an E-mail to you in a thread. Therefore I think that I should have heard it at the time if I do not really arrive. I thinks to be a proper action as a manager.
They wrote in it at a bulletin board so far. I can hardly think that it is faithful correspondence to see only the manner that a manager took for it. I think that it is natural that they feel unless both respect and trust are considered to be a manager.
To take the fun out of it from the user, they are not behaving. To defend a happy place for the user, they are behaving. Volunteer's safety is necessary for that. It is not because only Toru-san and Izumi-san have misgivings. Actually, well informed other users about the law of Japan also are pointing it out. "Deretar has a risk." This is not a problem that can be disregarded.
You might think like their being conflicting with you. However, it will be not true if it sees from a certain one side. There is many sides in things. There might be an expression that seems that severe for you it at times. I think regrettable in that regard. I'm sorry. It is however because we Japanese are not accustomed to English, the United States culture, and thought. Excuse me, are you well informed about the culture, thought, the law, and Japanese of Japan? We think it is confronted with the same each other, problem.
Please please understand it. I am wishing the sense that you are bullied to be thrown away.
I wonder if you know how to put/edit/set deletion accounts on servers. If not, you must ask him how and do that. Or simply ask his help. I bet you know who is the person. Please send email to him. I hope you understand that he is not trying to take things from you.
No one can delete posts of bbspink right now. That is a problem. Bbspink's deletion-system should begin functioning as soon as possible. Otherwise, your bbspink will be corrupted with tons of posts of ad and personal data.
You dont seem to answer >>280 yet though you say you do answer questions. Here's a reminder.
http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1154967847/328 Jim-san says adversely. Do "you make fun of me?" "The thing that is important for you is to enjoy pink" ========================== A sentence in a bottom is my sentence from here. Toru-san and 328-san are angry. They want going to work as a volunteer seriously. We do not do it to make fun of you.
I cannot speak in English well. Did I do an impolite expression to jim-san? It apologizes if it is "YES".
I do not have the intention of bullying you. They do not want also to bully you.
We wish to express our gratitude for gentle feelings of jim-san. However, Japan is very severe with the Japanese. Even if jim-san is generous to the Japanese, the government in Japan severely manages the Japanese.
A careful person fears it. A careful person thinks that there is a possibility that the government in Japan metes out punishment to Japanese volunteers. They think that the method of preventing the punishment that attacks the volunteer is more necessary.
The volunteer is a weak individual. A careful person worries about the volunteer very much.
Jim-san has the soft heart. They also have the soft heart.
Do you raise a BBSPINK's volunteer yet? I want to become it. And I hope to help your work. I intend to try a duty hard. If you think me not to deserve to be you Please stop my the deletion account.
（ちゃんと伝わるだろうか不安だ･･･。
454 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/15 (月) 15:30:48
ID:
f/kSm2A9
This whole problem is made by some who has cats whispering in their ear. Deletion script is not the problem it is simple script and same one or new one can be used. The problem is who are the current deleters. I don't know the names or contact for these people. Only one person knows, and they have not shared that informatioin. Guidelines are simple and have been discussed enough. I am very happy that we have many volunteers. Only a few have been corresponding with me by email. Please be patient. Gomenasai sumi-masen.
Please read >>269. Toru-san said that he sent an email about volunteers. So, we understood that the information was already sent to you. If you did not receive the email, it is proper to think that there was a problem in email-line among Toru-san with you .
Toru-san informed you of having sent the email to you by 269. So (if you did not receive it), you should have taken action and tell it to Toru-san, I think. Because of there was no action, we misunderstood that you already received the email,and you did not react for it.
If there was failure of simple communication, please begin by restoring it. Please.
>Mr. Jim Please remove my name from your volunteers list for the time being. Because I didn't apply for a volunteer of BBSPINK, and at the present time, there is no leader(possibly defendant) who is trustworthy for me. (I also mean that your guidelines are not enough safe for me to be a deleter) I'm really sorry that I couldn't help you.
I agree with >>460 san. TO-RU san declared here that he sent mail to Jim-san. You were able to read it. >>269 He believed that it was able to be sent to you. You had the method for the confirmation. But you nothing but left the problem. I think that you only had to say to him at that time, "I have not received it".
When seeing from you, TO-RU san or IZUMI san might be dissenters only of inquisitive. However, they seem always to be making an effort to give necessary information for you and to talk with you, I think. I sincerely hope you do the handshake of reconciliation with them.
Jim ! Deletion stops. Trial case, a case manager judged the libel that did not depend on GL before. I think that there are many requests from the outside of BBSpink.
As for me, a manager thinks the window and a method to want you to prepare immediately.
* Is a request in Japanese possible?
* A method to connect with Jim is necessary in Jim missing an email surely.
469 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/16 (火) 04:29:10
ID:
2/KnyKeR
>>13 those are not my emails only send to jimATMARKbbspink.com THen I can keep bbspink mail clear. >>465 I have received ANALFUCKo6 email. I think that other emails were not sent to my email address.
The policy which you showed gives a big impact to many users. BBSPINK has observed Japanese law under the management of 2ch till now. Changing based on the US law brings BBSPINK a rapidly big change. It is not a favorable thing for many users. A change should be performed step by step.
BBSPINK has another big problem. It is that there are none of volunteers who help you. Of course there are some volunteers candidates. But they can not work because they have no authority. Jim-san. Do you understand how many volunteers who helps you? The volunteer of 2ch doesn't help BBSPINK as before. Please give the indication to the volunteer who helps you. If they have not authority that is necessary, please give authority to them.
It is a many users hope that BBSPINK becomes a comfortable and pleasant place. Let's do a necessary thing, step by step.
Step by step: I have decided who the new leader will be. In the future the official guidelines for deletion will be posted at deleter.bbspink.com All volunteers need to send email again to del@bbspink.com this email is now active and will receive volunteer requests.
473 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/16 (火) 06:10:02
ID:
2/KnyKeR
>>469 Thank for your notice to receive my Email. I send Email again since your request>>472 to del@bbspink.com. Please find, read, put my request into action, and let me know the result.
your>>472, new leader, official guideline posting is noted, thanks.
May I make such a thread? I think that a general person who will contact Jim-san in the future increases. When Jim-san registers in the favorite, it is glad.
Sorry for the delay. Here is the deletion leader handle. LOVE★ I have to drive 500 miles, then I will be online again with email. Thank you Toru and Izumi for your help and also Analfuck koropink and witch. You have all really helped me with this decision and I hope you will support my selection.
I made a CAP for LOVE-san and I sent its password to LOVE-san via email.
The CAP handle name is LOVE ★ Now LOVE-san can use this all bulletin board servers of bbspink.com, pie, idol, sakura01, sakura02, and sakura03.
I hope your decision brings good future to us and bbspink.
And unfortunately, today I must have a periodical medical health examination. As you know, it brings sometimes very hard for my body and soul, and probably today I will be offline.
Announcement to the volunteers who are on the list >>366 and >>509 above:
Send these to del at bbspink dot com by email from the internet provider. The leader will receive it.
1. A trip which is on the list Jim made for the volunteers. 2. A trip's password for proving identical. 3. A handle of your cap. 4. A password of your cap. 5. Your age. 6. What kind of volunteer experience in 2ch have you had, if you have done?
Write new trip after you prove your identical if you want to change a trip.
Congratulations on decision of the deletion leader. I hope bbspink will become more and more pleasant. By the way,I have some questions about >>512.
1) In >>155,Jim-san said "If there is personal information it will be kept in the USA, and only I will have access to it". Now,LOVE★-san said the leader will receive e-mail from volunteers. Does it mean that you will share the informatioin after this? (I think that a e-mail address is one of the personal information. If it is my misunderstanding, please forgive me.)
2) In >>512,LOVE★-san said "Announcement to the volunteers who are on the list >>366 and >>509 above". Does it mean LOVE★-san manages not only Deleters but also all volunteers? (I think that LOVE★-san is the deletion leader,so LOVE★-san manages only Deleters.)
If I have misunderstand, please correct it. I'll be glad to receive your reply.
It is unreasonable that 2ch users become victim to the bbspink ISP regulation.
So you can unlock anytime you want.
If bbspink has its own system that can inform ISP and unlock, I might have another idea. but if it doesn't have, bbspink can not have any reason which it can regulate 2ch users.
>>575 Lets try as usual as it was before. If there is reason to change the old ISP regulation from 2ch then we can discuss it here. For the time being I don't see a reason to change the current system. Lets talk about it again next week.
Since 2ch and BBSPINK are "another" BBS and the volunteer of 2ch cannot report to ISP in the name of BBSPINK, "current system" is not working. Please permit them the same activity (report to ISP /Release of regulation) as 2ch also by BBSPINK.
588 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/18 (木) 05:25:37
ID:
qIbyRziA
Maybe I am not understanding this reporting system. Can someone please explain it to me?
>>588 When those who engaged in disruptive behavior obstinately at BBS are
1. Volunteers report to ISP. 2. ISP copes with warning etc. to a user. 3. Receive mail of the completion of correspondence from ISP. 4. Work deregulation.
There is also a place which does not correspond depending on ISP if it is not the report from the management persons concerned.
I received email from Jim-san about CAP management. And I will teach Jim-san how to manage CAP handles at bbspink later. I think I can allocate the time for it tonight.
Jim-san, if you approve it, you can teach it to LOVE-san.
The system of regulation is common to 2ch and BBSPINK. The volunteer of 2ch can deregulate.
1. It cannot report in the name of BBSPINK. 2. There is no permission which cancels regulation of BBSPINK.
For this reason, it is "being unable to work, although it can do."
They have expressed the report to ISP about regulation of BBSPINK, and the will which performs deregulation. In order to obtain their help, please say to them, "Help."
>>604 LOVE ★ さん > This means the leader can see information of the volunteers. > So, we have to adopt only people who allow the leaders to see their information. > Though we are very sorry about it, there is no help for it for now.
I can't understand the meaning that you said. Because you have already seen volunteer's personal data by email. >>578, >>580
Thank you for sending the application for the volunteer. We have now enough number of the volunteers for the first stage recruitment. We are going to close accepting an email for "GIVE ME A CAP" after 48 hours from now. We adopt only people who allow the leaders to see their information.
All the applicants who sent to del@ will receive some information in a few days by email. Please wait for it.
ボランティア申し込みを送っていただき、ありがとうございます。 第一期募集として充分な人数が集まりました。 今から48時間以内に、"GIVE ME A CAP"メールの受付を終了致します。 リーダーがボランティアの個人情報を見ることに同意する人だけを採用致します。
>>608 LOVE ★-san You announced send mail to del@ at >>512. You can see volunteer's information, because the del@ do delivery to both of Jim-san and LOVE-san. Isn't it?
>>619 We are sorry, but we do not add your name this time. It is because I do not see your handle in this board, and your email was a free email address. We will recruit the second stage soon. Please wait until then.
639 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/21 (日) 18:41:11
ID:
PWjLI5/Z
>>630 Deletion script has security problem. It is temporary disabled until I find the solution. probably within 24-36 hours. when it is fixed, then I will delete >>630 sorry for the inconvenience.
The reputation of AF★ and L★ is very bad. There is only a bad reputation. Language usage is very rude and dirty. Moreover, their attitude is very bad. Furthermore, an important question escapes, without answering. I cannot think two leaders at all.
>>Jim-san Other volunteers' personal information was contributed. ◆ANALFUCKo6 ＠肛門性交 ★ performed this post. I think that it is dangerous for other volunteers that he continues activity as a volunteer. Please declare prohibition of the activity as his formal volunteer, and deprivation of CAP. Please delete this report.
653 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/22 (月) 06:18:08
ID:
PWjLI5/Z
>>651 I have read the post. I don't see any telephone numbers, street address or real names. It is not polite and embarrassing but not fits the deletion guidelines. I hope that the poster will not do it in the future.
Jim-san. A problem is not a thing due to ◆ANALFUCKo6 and ◆love love. The first big cause is because you are stupid. You should reflect seriously. Please talk with a person of a volunteer.
676 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/22 (月) 16:56:21
ID:
jPQNtkoR
Spiritual advice from the Black eyed peas: "If u touch it Ima start some drama You don't want no drama No no drama no no no no drama "
677 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/22 (月) 16:59:59
ID:
jPQNtkoR
Everyone says everyone else is stupid. That is ok. We are all stupid. All the blood goes to our hard dicks and we can not think clearly. So don't take thing so serious, everyone is safe and we can enjoy our エロ life together.
Please do not give ANALFUCKo6-san the authority of the adjuster. It is not preferable to concentrate the authority on one person. It is thought that it wants you to endeavor in another thing for ANALFUCKo6-san.
You or LOVE were permitted various authority to ◆ANALFUCKo6, but he uses it for himself dogmatically.
It is a very important problem, if you gave him authority of handleCAP setting. It means volunteer's information leaked out.
◆ANALFUCKo6 has received the criticism from many users by current speech and behavior. It is very dangerous to entrust an important authority, to the person to exercise wrong authority. Please deal with it, immediately.
I like your way of thinking to live happily. I think all all of us are stupid,too. But I am very sorry that I cannot believe "everyone is safe". I hope BBSPINK becomes a happy place.
688 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/22 (月) 17:39:29
ID:
jPQNtkoR
>>680 Not dangerous. It has become even safer these last to days. Only people are talking about dangerous because they want DRAMA. I don't want drama. Drama belongs on 2ch, and エロ belongs on bbspink. My choice of leader was well thought out, and I am certain that LOVE is good and kind and very very smart.
>>675said It is the very disappointing situation now. There were the people who were going to talk with Jim seriously. How did Jim treat the people in the past? Jim gathered only assenters. And what kind of character are a leader and the GL-creator whom Jim decided arbitrarily?
I think these present conditions to be no help for it as far as there is it. It's a very Nonsense foolish!! A feeling to make an English sentence does not happen!!!
So that we may enjoy エロ, eliminate an incapable staff. Stupid is necessary, but we don't want incapacity.
694 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/22 (月) 18:27:25
ID:
jPQNtkoR
>>688 I wish you were not dissapointed Witch. That is a quote from a very erotic song. The song sings about the perfection of a womens hips. and the wonderful things she receives because of them. There is no danger in looking at those beautiful hips. Just she is upset and will start trouble if her beautiful hips are touched. You can look but don't touch. This is my current advice. I wish people would stop complaining so much. Freedom of thought is at stake, and our servers are secure, and your posts remain intact.
Jim-san Do you understand why many people resigns as you?
700 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/22 (月) 19:22:52
ID:
jPQNtkoR
>>698 Witch, that email was posted by the sender because he thought he could not contact me. It did not come out of my email box. I like you Witch, please don't be a bitch.
>>Jim-san It seems that the number of the reply place has shifted since the data of >>604 was deleted. Is this thread seen using "Firefox" and "bbs2 chreader add-on"? Supposing you become so, please re-acquire by the following operations.
1.This thread is chosen by thread list.
2.A mouse is right-clicked and "ログの削除(delete this Tread Log)" which is at the bottom of a menu is chosen. 3.By thread list, this thread is chosen and data is resaved.
Now, the number of a reply place could be specified correctly.
ANALFUCKo6-san said that ANALFUCKo6-san was the same as the deletion person that caused a problem in 2ch. It was judged to be inappropriate in 2ch him, and, as for him, it was deprived of deletion authority.
He can do a setting change besides deletion, too. As for him, we had a problem for a setting change. His action is not improved. A person of a circumference is disgusted by uneasiness in having most.
It leads to distrust that leader and Jim continue adopting. Please think about the reason why a volunteer applicant expresses refusal in Jim, the present time.
Do not you perform a vote of confidence of ANALFUCKo6-san to know Jim, will of many people? It is very democratic and will become a help to protect freedom of thought.
703 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/22 (月) 19:56:46
ID:
xLtw3TaG
We're surrounded by the ghost that was born in 2ch. I was so afraid I couldn't erect. Oh Jim! Please tell ANALFUCK beside me to be quiet. He can do only watersports in here. It's only it. An ambulance for ANALFUCK, please! Otherwise I can't jack off in peace.
709 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/22 (月) 20:26:56
ID:
xLtw3TaG
Analfuck does not have access to passwords. Analfuck will stay on as a deleter. I know some of you don't like him, but I will defend you too when it is your turn to be the target of everyones anger. If Analfuck makes problem deleting then he will no longer be a deleter. Has he deleted something that should not have been deleted? that is my only concern. I hope that you understand even if you hate what he says he has a right to say it. I hate to look at other guys penis, but I won't stop them from uploading or posting them. Please understand this position. If the law in Japan is really getting so dangerous, then it is important to keep BBSPINK on because you and your countryman will lose your right to freedom of speach. I intend to keep this bbs open for that reason. Sorry if I have pissed off anyone. After Fox has assured me things are secure again, then deletion can start. Not UNTIL THEN!
>>709 Jim-san The method of checking which volunteers of 2ch two volunteers are was exhibited by the utterance of Analfuck. Even if Jim did not offer information, it became possible to specify two volunteers.
You must not believe only ANALFUCK. He is Darth Vader.
Conscience of a person is a chessman for him. He takes a fictional enemy to you. A lot of people were deceived by him. By the same trick, a lot of people were deceived by him.
He uses a famous bulletin board like one's private properties and wants to be proud to a friend and people.
He uses a system of a famous bulletin board like private properties. He wants his friend and people to worship him. It is his true purpose.
A vicious fraud clown like him is very rare. Your PINKBBS is his next game.
Many user doesn't want drama on BBSPINK. And Jim don't want drama, too. But ANALFUCK want drama.
It's a story that builds ANALFUCK kingdom. Of course the hero of the story is himself. Once he was going to do it on 2ch. Therefore he was expelled from 2ch by ひろゆき. he commits any kind of evil deed so that he write his story. He thinks nothing of tell a lie and he is hurting others.
We feel anxiety about him. We simply can't keep up with him. I don't want to be implicated us in his crime.
717 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/23 (火) 00:17:24
ID:
jPQNtkoR
Guys, I understand your position. It scares me more than your feelings for Analfuck. Best way to get rid of Analfuck is to stop talking about him. Your position is the kind that has not been seen in the world since the 1930s and it is so scary. Please think about my simple words. After Analfuck who will be next. The other day Everyone hated TORU. Now Analfuck. I am not taking sides. Talk it out with Analfuck. Or your next victim. I really wish we could have anoter AA contest on this board today just to finish it off and start fresh with 3 Sorry about the firefox thing. It is convenient for me, but I see that the numbers don't match up.
I wonder who hate TORU-san. A lot of people said "please trust TORU-san & IZUMI-san" to you in this thread. Who is it that did not agree to it? Was not it you?
725 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/23 (火) 01:13:17
ID:
jPQNtkoR
I think this might be a misunderstanding. You are right. However the way you are talking to me has opposite affect that you intend. It only makes me angry. Please don't do that. I have stated I am not taking sides in this. It is conversation, and it is getting old conversation. Please change the fucking subject. Pushing on me is like pushing on a Judo master. They use your weight against you and you lose. So please just stop it.
Christ! you know it ain't easy You know how hard it can be
730 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/23 (火) 01:31:21
ID:
jPQNtkoR
Dear Witch Please correct for me, if you send it in attachment I can do it better. .txt attachment would be good. Last time you sent to me the text was broken. domo wazawaza sumi-masen.
737 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/23 (火) 02:00:00
ID:
jPQNtkoR
charset=shift_jis will work fine. please send as attachment
738 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/23 (火) 02:07:07
ID:
jPQNtkoR
I have heard that HIV is a growing problem in Japan. It might be useful if we made a board discussing it. Not in a clinical way but there are many reasons for such a board. The people with HIV still want to have sex, the people without HIV want to know how they can have sex and minimize their risk of getting it. I am not sure but I am guessing that it might be important for such a board to exist.
I'm Japanese, but sometimes I can't read the web. Because of charset. Most of document use shift jis - "jis" means Japanese Industrial Standard. You may use the shift jis as standart, and if you can't read the text, cange the charset.
>> Jim-san Please do not miss the important post in many posts. Although this thread has many posts which ask for your permission, they are forgotten being unable to obtain an answer. It will be an affair which can be performed if you say "ok.Please." If you please, please give required directions to those posts.
p.s Does correction of a deletion script require time?
I understand that I feel that you dislike TORU. But I do not take the opinion that TORU was disliked be here. Do you choose a person by one's likes and dislikes? Other people can see it so.
Where of this is equitableness? Who expects such an administration from a manager of bbs that opened in the world?
You contradict the premise that is partial to nobody.
And you make somebody favor by your likes and dislikes after all. I cannot trust the words that you are not partial to.
To TORU san You insisted on a copyright and had better take over a delete script. With the script which 2ch offers.
In 2ch, ◆ANALFUCKo6 was known to ◆POSEIDONgg, and was one of deleters. He often got into trouble and had a quarrel with user, therefore he was not quite trusted. Last year he got into a serious trouble (dispute on a deleting transaction with other volunteer), as a result he was removed from the volunteer.
Did you know this fact, Jim ? If you know, why did you appoint such a person as a volunteer ? I cannot understand you.
749 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/23 (火) 06:53:39
ID:
jPQNtkoR
I like Toru. No problem at all. Just I have seen posts of people that don't like Toru, and I ignore them. It was used as an example.
>>786 With resumption of deletion, deleter had directions by e-mail about the contents deleted. since there is no statement to a bulletin board, a user does not understand what is deleted.
Wish: I want you to perform directions by writing for a bulletin board. (If there is no problem in opening to the public )
（It is assumed that TRIP-MAN deleted the thing which deleter★ should delete. When we became a problem who deleted it in that case, it is awkward. deleter★が削除すべきものをTRIP-MANが削除したと仮定します。 我々はその場合それを削除した問題になったとき、それは厄介です。）
※Problems. * All the deletion volunteers lose trust. * It is assumed that there is Mr.A causing a lot of problems. Only the upper echelon knows that Mr.A has many mistakes. When only the upper echelon knows it, it is a problem. It is not to know what kind of punishment you gave Mr.A which caused a problem. 問題点 * 全ての削除ボランティアが、信用を失います。 * 多くの問題を引き起こしているMr.Aがいると仮定します。 上層部だけが、Mr.Aが多くの間違いをするということを知っています。 上層部だけがそれを知っているとき、それは問題です。 問題を引き起こしたMr.Aにどんな罰を与えたかについて、わかることになりません。
>Mr.Jim I report it about Mr.kaioh. He uses a confidential information of people for self-interest. It is sure that this thing has testimony of a 2channel operators including Mr.Hiroyuki. This becomes serious evil for BBSPINK. Mr.LOVE employs him in the important post while knowing it. Besides, he seem to do a mutter of evil to you to use him for an important position. I think. Except that, as for this, Mr.LOVE is "an accomplice" of Mr.kaioh, there is not it. You should dismiss LOVE for BBSPINK if you do not do LOVE and "suspicious business".
Jim-san‥‥‥ >http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1092218833/998 >998 名前：Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 投稿日：2006/08/26(土) 13:56:39 ??? >LOVE * you have my approval to begin deletion. >Hajime yo!
>http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1092218833/999 >999 名前：Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 投稿日：2006/08/26(土) 13:57:07 ??? >LOVE * you have my approval to begin deletion. >Hajime yo!
>http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1092218833/1000 >1000 名前：Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 投稿日：2006/08/26(土) 13:57:22 ??? >LOVE * you have my approval to begin deletion. >Hajime yo!
Jim-san which an important position named a manager has must not do such a copy & paste. It is said in various places by the people who looked. 「It is manager disqualification!!!」. You are shame.
>>801 Nothing to do with originality or using copy and paste. It was important and I wanted to use the repeat to get the point across. Don't be so serious.
My two favorite games are Red Baron, and Total Carnage. You might be able to find them on a mame site. I have not seen those video game machines in quite a while. My favorite computer game is Hot Wheels Velocity X.
I can't remember. I am drinking to the demise of Pluto as a planet. Now it is only a dwarf planet. Dwarfs are small and even dwarf planets are big, why are they dwarf planets. Couldn't we come up with a new name? How about Big Balls.
I think. Jupiter is grand, but always covers a face. An appearance is bigger than it, but there is not it greatly. It always comes and smiles well. When we put up a face, there is always it near.
It seems to be so the moon. We like such an existence.
August ends soon. Has the climate in your country softened? Japan is still sultry.
I have a favor to ask of you today.
Before LOVE-san becomes a volunteer leader, the volunteer recruitment was done two times in pink bbs. Did you receive the application mail of those times from TO-RU san in >>484-485? If you received, my application mail is sure to be included in that.
I sent two application mail. One was sent to delATMARKbbspink.com on July 19. One was sent to shinobuATMARK2ch.net on July 26. However, I didn't apply for recruitment afterwards after all, and I didn't become a volunteer.
Therefore, could you erase my application mail, my mail address, and all individual information whom you have? My handle name for application is "ボン". I described the same handle name and the mail address to the end of two mail. Should I send another mail to jimATMARKbbspink.com for the confirmation?
Sorry to trouble you, but I will wait for your answer.
>>820 That mail went to dev/null and Toru. That email is active now. Before it was not active just eager people posted it to soon. I am sorry for your inconvenience.
>>819 I take it very serious. I don't understand what you are talking about. I have been to Japan in August just for this problem, and that cost me a lot of money. (umm some of the money went to Shinjuku) but it is serious to me. I am interested in your opinion on Naked sushi. They are trying to ban it in Seattle Washington and I think that is very serious. No joke. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001788074_sushi11m.html
from JIM. >それは、必要ではありません。 >私には、あなたの情報がありません。 >トオルは、しかしそれをまだ持つかもしれません。 >トオルにそれを削除するよう頼んでください。
だそうです
ってそんな長い文書いている人だからわかりますね。 余計なお世話すみません。
828 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2006/08/29 (月) 05:51:19
ID:
cTICucsH
>> 826 Thanks Nakamaro. You made me smile. People are really taking things to serious lately. There are some really serious things going on. Pink Channel is escape from them for many people. Maybe we should make a beating board, and only allow beating on that board. Come on guys I am just busy studying the latest issue of Cream. Concrete from bomb blasts falling on innocent children. Fathers and Mothers riddled with bullets and poor soldiers living to have to live with the memory of what they have done. Those things are serious. Rolling stone magazine, is serious. It has been pointed out to me that the articles written in its pages could never be printed in Japan. Press self censorship is serious. Getting horny, and wanting to write about it, or brag about your majestic beautiful penis is not serious but it is splendid that we have a place and an opportunity to that. Do you know that most of the users of Pink Channel are drunk? Coming home after a long day at the factory, the slaughter house or the office. Women drinking Super dry waiting for their drunk salary man husbands to come home from the mandatory fun their boss has imposed on them. I think most people just want to have fun on Pink Channel. The beaters and complainers are very few when we look at the amount of people enjoying themselves here. Lets have a fun erotic life together.
When are Jim, a deletion guideline completed? I look forward to me like "ろくろっ首 ". Because I am very longer than your penis, I find the neck unmanageable
830 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/29 (月) 06:05:00
ID:
cTICucsH
hehehehehehehehe So you need extra hands to help with it. well we could use the gl that Analfuck wrote if nobody has objection to it. Or you can wait for me to write it. Unfortunately my huge penis is in the way so it might take some time.
>>Jim-san Thank you for your response. In a word, you have not received the application mail about the past two volunteer's recruitment that 削除pink★ san & TO-RU san did. The applicants' past application mail was not included in TO-RU san's >>484 mail at all. Is that so?
If so, there is no problem. I pray for healthy management of pink bbs.（-人-）合掌
(in Japanese) Jimさん、お答えありがとうございます。 つまり、あなたは削除pink★さんとトオルさんが行った過去２回のボランティア募集に関する 応募メールは、受け取っていません。 トオルさんの>>484のメールには、過去の応募者たちの応募メールは一切含まれていません。 そうなんですね？
847 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/30 (火) 14:34:56
ID:
ZeNaNWlM
>>842 There is no obligation for volunteer. They can quit when they want. They have no responsibility. Whether they stay or go. I have no control of that. Fanning or beating I am not sure the difference because the multiple translation software I use still does not grasp the slang used here. Must be the cause of some volunteer leaving. Other volunteers have left because of difference of opinion. It is my opinion that people that have something to lose by deletion of their posts could be the ones doing the most beating. If you have a commercial site, and your job is to spam bbspink daily. Then it is in your best interest to beat and cause doubt among the deleters. Then nothing gets deleted while arguments take place. If someone is attempting to ruin their enemy by slander, they would also have a reason to attempt to scare and stop deleters from deleting it. The spammers are just parasites, and should be cleaned up when found. The slanderers are common criminals, and nobody can control what they do. They have a strange thought process that most normal people can not follow. Other people that fight and argue about the deletion rules have a serious interest in keeping Pink channel for posterity. These people are not causing trouble to me only debating their points.
You chose only the person who approved of your opinion. It will be the choice that is the best for you. However, it may not be the best for many people. You lack that kind of viewpoint.
Therefore many volunteers have a hard time.
And many people gave frank advice to your choice of person. But you curse it when it "is the person who is interested to delete a person".
You put one's mistake on another person. And you make an excuse saying that oneself is not bad.
Many volunteers gave up in your posture. It is yourself that was got rid by many people.
It is difficult for the person who cannot see through a lie to become a manager.
855 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/30 (火) 15:36:39
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>852 Yes happy place full of jokes and fun. That is what I want too. Who are these people that are trying to take it away. Some kind of BBS sadist or something?
856 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/30 (火) 15:38:47
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>854 From now on: Only mind readers, ESPers and psychics should apply.
857 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/30 (火) 15:39:40
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>856 That is sarcasm. If it does not translate well in your translator....;)
864 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/30 (火) 21:13:00
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>862 We already have built a new system that is working. I am the owner of BBSPINK.COM how can they perform coup? They could offer money to buy it, but I wouldn't sell it. This headache of bbspink, has truly become my passion. They can talk and dream and whatever. I think their plans involve something other than the best interests of Pink channel users. I don't understand what they want.
>>864 Please listen to their words. Please hear the talk also from Hiroyuki or FOX. When managing BBSPINK, what kind of danger is there? What kind of danger does the volunteer who helps BBSPINK have? Please fully discuss with them "what is necessity in order to help in comfort" instead of answering "There is no risk." I do not want to see that they are going to appear in hard measures.
867 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/30 (火) 22:03:03
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>866 I have tried and tried to understand what the fuck is being talked about. by my small pack horse understanding. I see. It is important to the users of bbspink that someone in Japan is no the chopping block and willing to go to jail when someone like Toru feels fit. That is not the way I see it should be.
You do not think about a user. Present BBSPINK is Hitler Administration.
Do you know that a leader killed one volunteer yesterday? （yume ★-san） Speech from a leader "I do not like you!!" It is a problem if you do not know it. And it is a more great problem if you knows it.
However, if Jim-san wishes, it can confirm whether it is true. They will talk to Jim-san because it cannot talk to me, either. Would you confirm these things to those who are likely to know the situation? And supposing it is true, what doesn't it consider is required for BBSPINK all together anew? I like BBSPINK. please
An owner of PINKBBS is you. Example:You are a landowner.
Who leveled the moorland? Who plowed a field? Who continued giving a plant water? Who continued getting rid of a harmful insect? Who did disease prevention? Who sprinkled manure?
Who took care of PINKBBS so far? Who made PINKBBS big so far? PINKBBS grew up by power of a large number of users.
The landowner left care of a field to a Japanese for coon's age. You do not understand how to raise plants growing in a field. You kill many kinds of plants by your conduct. Crops and the field that a lot of users grew are burnt out. A lot of users grieve in it.
If it is your ideal, I do not mind it even if you can continue the present method.
Please write here what you want to do. Please use mail only important secrets. PINKBBS users love this site,and want to help Jim-san. One NAMELESS USER have little ability,but WE have many many brain. Please write "what's happen?",please...
LOVE use very little words,and LOVE can't explain Jim-san thinking. I came here Because want to understand Jim-san thinking directly.
Various post, criticism, protection, etc are repeated. It is a characteristic of an anonymity bulletin board. Please be not confused by various post. Please show Jim-san's thinking, and build a relationship of mutual trust with user.
btw, why was the guideline gotten to the start back? There was the announcement from LOVE-san, but many people are confused because she does not announce a reason. With confusion, deletion is not performed now.
Please announce from Jim-san directly for BBSPINK user. BBSPINK user want to know Jim-san's thinking.
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Jim
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： 2006/08/31 (水) 01:53:58
ID:
jxqOGbmX
Dear yume ◆Yume.xMgf6,
Welcome back. I am happy to see you. >>868 said you were gone. >>870 sounds very bitter. It sounds like something from the dark ages. I am not a lord of some manner. Bitter people attempt to make something different and scare people here. LOVE* has done what I said. Maybe she did not understand but she did what I said. My thinking is strong and dark and angry at this time. Maybe tomorrow I will post my thinking. I think that the users should not be scared by shadow people wispering strange things as truth. I will explain a little now though. I think we are working on our third deletion policy. The first two had some kind of political purpose that I did not understand behind them. I don't think or know who is wrong or right. Action speaks loudest with me. Now we will follow 2ch GL, and let it evolve SLOWLY towards being a more adult friendly GL. Someday I will post my thinking why when I am not so angry. Please support LOVE* Mr. LOVE* is putting a lot of effort into helping, and has a good heart, smart mind, and pleasant personality.
Hi,Jim-san. >>847 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Almost DELETER retire Because analfuck make many(I know 3times) troubles in PINKBBS. Jim-san believe analfuck. And DELETERS said "PINKBBS volunteer is too dangerous to trust. Because Jim-san can believe analfuck and so on."
#analfuck is as know as poseidon in 2ch. #poseidon think "I'm KING! 2ch & PINKBBS is mine". #poseidon maked many many troubles.He fired.
882 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/31 (水) 03:24:06
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>881 I agree he made many troubles, and deceived me. That is past now and he no longer has CAP and no longer has deleter account. Talk of him is useless.
to Jim-san Which do you love "the PLACE of bbspink" or "the USER of bbspink"? When you called to users "you are the stealers!", I felt you do not love users.
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Jim
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： 2006/08/31 (水) 04:11:40
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>886 When did I say such a thing? Which is better apples or oranges? People and places can't be compared. I love the mountains, but the mountains don't need protection. I love people and I protect them.
The people said it; "we are not protected in your behavior". I am very uneasy. When people are uneasy, notes of here increase. People demand a person to lead more concretely than a leader sending a message.
LOVE does not meet expectation. She sends a message. Her words keep away a person helping it. People desire plural leaders.
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Jim
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： 2006/08/31 (水) 04:57:42
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>892 Please explain why you are uneasy. Do you want to be the leader? Who is Mr. LOVE* keeping away? Why are you uneasy, and what is different about my behaviour now then say 5 years ago. about the same I would guess. I have not changed. Things LOVE* has done. Made deletion secure on bbspink. With the old system deleter information was not secure. Are you still using old system someplace? I would not feel secure with the old system.
I raise plural guidelines plan and do not hear the popular will by a referendum?
Japanese manager ひろゆきが is the thing premise that there is, and a 2ch original guideline is made. There is not it so that the premise works out pink. It is impossible by the method that I reconsider because there are many change points.
895 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/31 (水) 05:53:06
ID:
jxqOGbmX
I think Japanese manager is impossible. ひろゆきが has declined that job and I am thrust into it. Please understand I want to make it better.
>>895 Your the words bring joy. I still think..... If there is not a Japanese person in charge, a system using a Japanese volunteer is dangerous to them.
There are a lot of dangerous laws for a Japanese. Because you are American, you cannot go to court in place of a Japanese volunteer. you cannot protect a Japanese volunteer from the law. If you continue using a Japanese volunteer, please recognize that many changes of a guideline are necessary to make danger small.
897 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/31 (水) 06:17:29
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>896 I have always been the one that has been contacted by the police when there is a problem on bbspink. Security of volunteer is my major concern. At this time volunteer system is the most secure it has ever been. I am happy that constructive talk is happening now too.
There is one very good method to avoid a problem from Japanese law. Only a person resident in U.S.A. should be employ volunteers. A problem is solved very simply by doing it this way.
899 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/31 (水) 06:34:38
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>898 Good idea, but I can't identify bbspink users by country. That is to difficult. I have stats of % of users by country but not indivual user identity. Good idea but to difficult to enforce, and probably not popular among the users.
It is a past that volunteer system was safe. Because "Hiroyuki" in the present system, and there is not.
It is it makes an American volunteer, and with that alone to administer it to be the best. Or it is to prepare a charged person going to a Japanese court of law.
2 channel is variety show. Pink channel is Sexually show.
Japan has a special law for a sexual program (And, Business). and Almost about Sexual, Who want talk the treated content is personally related to human honor. Slander and beating to sexual business girls and guys is custom in Pink channel, now. To our regret, a venomous abuse goes unmentioned more than right stuffs. A correct guideline is necessary for a pink channel to operate it correctly from 2ch guideline.
902 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/31 (水) 07:02:46
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>900 hmm. I should find a patsy in Japan to go to jail for me in the US? Would you like this job...;) I think that is not the way we will do things. BBSpink has always been a US site, and always under US law. I am happy for your information though.
903 ：
Jim
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： 2006/08/31 (水) 07:04:54
ID:
jxqOGbmX
>>901 Yes I understand. There are special laws in the US too. I would like to know your idea at a solution, other than me hiring a japanese patsy to go to jail for me. Please let me know another idea. That one would never be acceptable for me.
Your servers are in US. You are in US. BBSPINK is a service in US. While making the delete GuideLine, You don't consider Japanese law. Is that correct?
908 ：ひろゆき ★：2006/08/31(木) 17:35:14 ID:??? BTW, There was big earth quake in Tokyo. At that time, I was taking a shower. It's pretty scared to think if I would run around with naked.
